thirdgenbird

do we need a shill lesson in this worthless thread?

due to the price difference between ultegra di2 and DA di2, this part of his comments only makes people who bought (or are set on) DA di2 feel better.

saying this:
about ultegra di2 doesnt do shimano any good what so ever. instead it will make people think this:

it would be like bmw trying to spur 7 series sales by calling the 3 series crap. all they will accomplish is an increase in audi a4 sales.

shokhead

So worthless you replyed. Odd!

thirdgenbird

the thread is worthless so i felt my comments would not subtract from its value. just because conversation is worthless doesnt mean i cant partake, i just dont expect much from it in return. that is where the "no worth" comes from. if it were a constructive conversation it would have been worth more valuable input on the actual topic. see the difference?

Mansram01

So you're saying I should go Campy, right??

thirdgenbird

Not at all. I am saying negative press for ultegra di2 is more likely to cause people to consider a mechanical group than DA di2. If campy had an eps group in the ultegra di2 price range then it would be worth a look but at this time it (athena eps) is only in sales books .today, sram would be the most likely party to gain from negative ultegra di2 press (if I were true)

patentcad

Dura Ace Di2 is considerably more elegant than the 7900 mechanical version. With Ultegra the 6700 mechanical group is sleeker, better designed than the electronic components.

Hey, I like Di2 and all, but a good mechanical group like Ultegra is great too. Looking forward to riding the 2012 version of Sram Red. The one place where Di2 has an unbeatable advantage is on a TT bike. Game changer on a TT bike.

Most of the idiots here have no clue or hands on experience, and RW is the biggest, most pompous, egotistical idiot on all of BF*, and that's saying something right there.

*botto included









God help me bike weenies are imbeciles. And you wonder why I'm not here so much lately.

shokhead

If you say so.

cccorlew

I got to try Ultegra on a trainer at a recent show. Sure, it's a short test and not on the road. But the shifting was AMAZING. The fact that I can add buttons elsewhere on teh bars is a personal plus for me, but mostly I was impressed by how smoothly and effortlessly it shifted. It may have less bling, it may be more clunky (I'm not sure) but I still want it.

X-LinkedRider

Nobody is wondering that.

Falchoon

Under $3K for Di2 Ult equipped bikes if you look around

shokhead

Well under 5k for a good bid or at least a better one. Defy advanced 0 or a 6.2 Madone as examples.

patentcad

ok

patentcad

I'm sure it shifts great, D.A. Di2 is amazing, it can't be too much different. Hey it just looked cheesy in comparison. But they'll sell a lot of it. It's priced right.

Campag4life

When considering an electric groupset, most of us won't spend a lot of time focusing on the aesthetics of derailleurs or wiring.
Anybody have a close up picture comparison of Di2 and Ui2 shifters?

roadwarrior

Not really.

BTW...thanks for the compliment. When you say stupid things, prepare to be called out on it.

roadwarrior

Pcad does. That's all he really understands. But the whole thread was started as a justification for the original purchase. And who really cares?

Just like all systems, the one below the best is not as nice. I rode the Ultegra system and there's nothing wrong with it if that's what you want. It is not cheesy any more than mechanical Ultegra is cheesy in comparison to the Dura Ace system.

I put up the pictures, but don't have them on this computer.

If anyone is considering going with Ultegra electronic, it's perfectly fine. It's not a snazzy as Dura Ace, but unless you have the extra disposable income and need ultra high performance (not just cool stuff to show up at a group ride and be the center of attention), Ultegra is just fine.

I really struggle with people coming on line talking about a company's product, making disparaging remarks when they really have no clue what they are talking about.

v70cat

Jim you are a smart man with a informed opinion. I am waiting for the second generation of Di2 before I move to electric. Question can you compare the R5 and R3SDL not sure that they are the different and not sure why you have both? I have a R3SDL that I like and was looking at the S5.

RT

Take a few months off and it is like not even a day passed in here. Let the big vein in your collective forehead relax a little and try to understand that any comment directed at Pcad is done so with tongue in cheek 99.9% of the time. He is the resident Di2 shill, Master of Mt. Doom, and for the most part, the most entertaining poster in virtually any thread.

RT

You do know you are in the Road Forum? :-D Not much constructive has taken place here since before the Addiction threads started.

shokhead

Few months?? You can leave for a few years and it is the same jackholes acting out but it is what it is. People in any forum are far braver on the other side of a keypad then they would be face to face.
If we had 50 users of Di2 Ultegra say how gread something about it was somebody would say they are all wrong. Maybe those would be the ones that still are big and have downtube shifters. LMAO!!

pallen

Why are we still talking about this vaporware anyway?

shokhead

I belive it has been released. That's why we are talking about it, right?

patentcad

We can tell.

patentcad

Nothing in this discussion is vaporware except 2012 Sram Red.

nhluhr

the vaporware comment was a joke... because pcad...