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01-27-19, 04:54 AM
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I love all the ideas. I prefer to finish with cloth tape, but it can come undone, so I’m intrigued by the gluing and waterproofing suggestions.
01-27-19, 05:35 AM
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01-27-19, 06:14 AM
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So Inagree, there is a proper way.
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and...
Since you didn't mention it in your two posts what is the "right" way, and which is the "wrong" way, you are obviously waiting for someone to fall for the bait and ask you,
given your undoubtedly vast, decades long experience, which is which.
Yawn.
Since you didn't mention it in your two posts what is the "right" way, and which is the "wrong" way, you are obviously waiting for someone to fall for the bait and ask you,
given your undoubtedly vast, decades long experience, which is which.
Yawn.
01-27-19, 06:23 AM
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Thanks guys. That, if I remember correctly, is crochet thread. With two very light coats of clear shellac to seal it.
What I learned on that one was that the thinner the whipping material, the more of a challenge it is to cover bumps
and ridges in the cloth tape underneath it.
What I learned on that one was that the thinner the whipping material, the more of a challenge it is to cover bumps
and ridges in the cloth tape underneath it.
01-27-19, 07:44 AM
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+1 on the angled cut. I've done this on all my bikes and all the wraps I do at the LBS. Nice neat way to finish the wrap.
01-27-19, 07:49 AM
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And my comment implied that there is more than one way to skin a cat and that the debate will go on and on about which is best. Campy vs Shimano, route cabling over the bars vs under, friction vs index, leather saddle vs plastic, etc., etc., etc. I thought you were making a funny, because what you said made light of the fact that we were having a relatively pleasant discourse on the topic of wrapping bars without everything degrading into a flame war about which is proper and which isn’t.
So Inagree, there is a proper way.
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01-27-19, 07:53 AM
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Decades of experience, yes. and If your mind was open you'd appreciate that the correct way to install bar tape is the correct way for a very practical reason - my mind was open many decades ago when a Tour de France mechanic showed me the correct way.
As your mind is closed what would be the point in explaining the correct way ?
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01-27-19, 08:32 AM
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I'm not fishing.
Decades of experience, yes. and If your mind was open you'd appreciate that the correct way to install bar tape is the correct way for a very practical reason - my mind was open many decades ago when a Tour de France mechanic showed me the correct way.
As your mind is closed what would be the point in explaining the correct way ?
John.
Decades of experience, yes. and If your mind was open you'd appreciate that the correct way to install bar tape is the correct way for a very practical reason - my mind was open many decades ago when a Tour de France mechanic showed me the correct way.
As your mind is closed what would be the point in explaining the correct way ?
John.
01-27-19, 09:10 AM
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First photo shows the clear is invisible on Benotto, and on re-wrapped, old Bike Ribbon.
Second photo shows the gloss (and the lack of soiling) making the clear stand out on the orange foam tape.
Third photo shows yesterday's hasty re-wrap of old Bike Ribbon using clear tape.
Last photo shows the clear over modern premium Fizik.
I like that the wrap diameter can remain completely constant to the upper ends, due to the constant wrap angle with angled cut over the last 3" of tape.
Second photo shows the gloss (and the lack of soiling) making the clear stand out on the orange foam tape.
Third photo shows yesterday's hasty re-wrap of old Bike Ribbon using clear tape.
Last photo shows the clear over modern premium Fizik.
I like that the wrap diameter can remain completely constant to the upper ends, due to the constant wrap angle with angled cut over the last 3" of tape.
It has the result of kind of looking like perfectly matched finishing tape.
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01-28-19, 11:43 AM
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I think I'm recognizing your approach, from the "measure twice, cut once" school of thought(?).
Yeah, road test it first, then if the tape perhaps feels to thin you can still re-wrap and space the coils tighter for a fuller grip.
Re-wrapping also conceals much of the localized wear damage. I re-wrap old (really old even) tape literally all the time. It can be machine-washed as well.
To wit, of the five bikes i posted photos of, four out of five (The Benotto was the exception) were re-wraps, and the orange tape went through the wash.
Yeah, road test it first, then if the tape perhaps feels to thin you can still re-wrap and space the coils tighter for a fuller grip.
Re-wrapping also conceals much of the localized wear damage. I re-wrap old (really old even) tape literally all the time. It can be machine-washed as well.
To wit, of the five bikes i posted photos of, four out of five (The Benotto was the exception) were re-wraps, and the orange tape went through the wash.
01-28-19, 01:32 PM
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01-28-19, 01:51 PM
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The correct way to wrap bars?? When I was first employed as a bike mechanic, there were several competing correct methods. At the time, some bikes did not come with brake hoods, and for these, the tape was looped around the hoods before continuing on. Top down of course. Some shops did all bikes this way regardless.
I always considered this the correct method during the cotton era: Thanks non-fixie... Top down. Wrap counter clockwise toward yourself so that bars look like this from the front. \\\\\[ ]///// Assuming brake hoods, as with modern wrapping a small piece of tape was used to cover the back of the brake lever strap.
Picture below is from non-fixie. Not my bike. pilfered and redirected from the post linked to above:
I always considered this the correct method during the cotton era: Thanks non-fixie... Top down. Wrap counter clockwise toward yourself so that bars look like this from the front. \\\\\[ ]///// Assuming brake hoods, as with modern wrapping a small piece of tape was used to cover the back of the brake lever strap.
Picture below is from non-fixie. Not my bike. pilfered and redirected from the post linked to above:
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01-28-19, 02:03 PM
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The correct way to wrap bars?? When I was first employed as a bike mechanic, there were several competing correct methods. At the time, some bikes did not come with brake hoods, and for these, the tape was looped around the hoods before continuing on. Top down of course. Some shops did all bikes this way regardless.
I always considered this the correct method during the cotton era: Thanks non-fixie... Top down. Wrap counter clockwise toward yourself so that bars look like this from the front. \\\\\[ ]///// Assuming brake hoods, as with modern wrapping a small piece of tape was used to cover the back of the brake lever strap.
I always considered this the correct method during the cotton era: Thanks non-fixie... Top down. Wrap counter clockwise toward yourself so that bars look like this from the front. \\\\\[ ]///// Assuming brake hoods, as with modern wrapping a small piece of tape was used to cover the back of the brake lever strap.
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01-28-19, 02:25 PM
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Nice Job! But just to play devils advocate, what would be the diff, as to the rider, if you wrapped it clockwise, away from you, still top to bottom. It does seem that your way, when wrapping, places the tape at a better angle for the first bend. My future wraps will look like yours. Again, great wrapping, beautiful bike, Thanks!
Tim
It's from a tape wrapping thread from 2017 that I linked to.Edited post to credit pic
AFA whether you wrap it the other way will it be different? Probably not much if any in practice.
01-28-19, 02:34 PM
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Here's a fuzzy pic of my Masi wrapped the same way.
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01-28-19, 03:45 PM
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Really nice looking jobs, Non-Fixie and Salamandrine. And I like your leather lacing in the first post. Due Ruote. Looks sharp.
In the early 70's we just wrapped it top down, stuffed the leftover in the end of the bars and stuck in a rubber Velox plug.
Undoubtedly wrong, but when it wore or started to peel over, we just replaced it.
In the early 70's we just wrapped it top down, stuffed the leftover in the end of the bars and stuck in a rubber Velox plug.
Undoubtedly wrong, but when it wore or started to peel over, we just replaced it.
01-28-19, 04:18 PM
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Really nice looking jobs, Non-Fixie and Salamandrine. And I like your leather lacing in the first post. Due Ruote. Looks sharp.
In the early 70's we just wrapped it top down, stuffed the leftover in the end of the bars and stuck in a rubber Velox plug.
Undoubtedly wrong, but when it wore or started to peel over, we just replaced it.
In the early 70's we just wrapped it top down, stuffed the leftover in the end of the bars and stuck in a rubber Velox plug.
Undoubtedly wrong, but when it wore or started to peel over, we just replaced it.
I do like the look of top down cloth tape. Very clean. However, in the late 70’s my friends and I all used Cinelli caps that fit over the bar end, and taped bottom up. I just cannot recall how we held the end down. I know we didn’t use electrical tape or twine. I don’t remember gluing the end down, although I have done that more recently with a quick spot of tire glue. That held well btw.
By 1980 at least we all used Benotto and went bottom-up, and heat sealed the end with no finish tape.
01-28-19, 05:23 PM
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Top-down BTW.
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Now I want to post everyone's pic with "you are the weakest link, good bye."
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