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Old 04-08-19, 01:40 PM
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New find with a mix of parts

Good evening from Scotland.


I picked up this donation today with no identifying marks on the frame. I have not has the opportunity to check it fully for any serial number, but it isn't in the usual spots (BB, Rear drop out).


Mash up of parts including:

Sugino crankset

Shimano FE front derailleur, Shimano RS rear

Mallinard hubs (unidentified rims 27")

Italian stem

Weinmann 730 brakes, Weinmann levers (suicide!)

LYOTARD BTE S.G.D.G 136R pedals


Any ideas on era? Any identifying work on the frame? There is no brazed on hanger - does that suggest an older frame? The chain-stay brace is a split design that I haven't seen before. The top tube cable guides are a bit distinctive. The paint job is a good quality powder blue with a slight sparkle (but this has probably been resprayed at some point)


Nothing is seized (yet).


It's a little small for me, but I don't have any other bike projects at the moment.


Here are some pictures - mudguard/fender is off!


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It is not high end, but looks like a good workable early to mid '80's bike. Perhaps Japanese. Need more frame details to help identify, if it is even possible.

Straight cut bottom bracket lugs
stamped rear dropouts
braze on rear brake guides
Short point head lugs
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Hello Scotland!

Would love to see that late 50’s Dawes in your list! Any chance for a quick photo?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
Hello Scotland!

Would love to see that late 50’s Dawes in your list! Any chance for a quick photo?

No problem 3speedslow.
This is it after I fixed it up (my first time ever fixing up an old bike). I have since found out it is a Red Feather and will require a red paint job at some stage!
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I like the Shimano little details...
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Getting a Schwinn World vibe from this...
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bike looks great. some polished fenders would look great on that
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Originally Posted by thinktubes
Getting a Schwinn World vibe from this...
+1; Schwinn did like to use that style of Sugino crankset.

To the OP - what / where is the serial number?

Too bad about that mudguard. Bet there's a story behind it.....
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Originally Posted by madpogue
+1; Schwinn did like to use that style of Sugino crankset.

To the OP - what / where is the serial number?

Too bad about that mudguard. Bet there's a story behind it.....
I've not yet found a serial number - I need to take it apart and look on the steerer tube.
The back rim is pretty bent so I guess it took at hit from something significant taking the mudguard out with it. The rims are steel, so probably should be replaced anyway!
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If it is a Schwinn World, the serial number is on the NDS rear DO and begins with G.
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Nice bikes, I have no idea what your bike is?
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I think it is unlikely that it is s Schwinn as they aren't very common here. If I find out when I strip it down I will carry this post on. Thanks for the interest!
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Where (roughly) is "here"?

Did you check the non-drive-side dropout for a serial #?
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I stripped it down tonight. I still can't find a stamp. None on either of the drop outs - there is an area that could have been filed off on the bottom bracket next to the two brazed on cable guides.

But, the fork is stamped. It has a Tange 4G stamp. Am I right in thinking that many Schwinn's 10 speeds were made in the Japan boom years?

Schwinn experts - where would I find good pictures of possible Schwinn frames to help ID it?

One setback though. I think the non driveside seat stay is a little bent (maybe by the knock that took out the wheel and mudguard!).

It should be possibe to bend it back - right?
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I think there may be an issue with the rear fender Nice find OP.
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@AliH, these sites may prove helpful in your quest. https://bikehistory.org/catalogs/
https://waterfordbikes.com/w/culture/schwinn-catalogs/
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Tange 4G fork


NDS Seat and Chain stay are bent.
Originally Posted by AliH
I stripped it down tonight. I still can't find a stamp. None on either of the drop outs - there is an area that could have been filed off on the bottom bracket next to the two brazed on cable guides.

But, the fork is stamped. It has a Tange 4G stamp. Am I right in thinking that many Schwinn's 10 speeds were made in the Japan boom years?

Schwinn experts - where would I find good pictures of possible Schwinn frames to help ID it?

One setback though. I think the non driveside seat stay is a little bent (maybe by the knock that took out the wheel and mudguard!).

It should be possibe to bend it back - right?
On second look it is quite obviously bent - I will take it along to my local fixer for some assistance!
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All put back together as a city bike - I'm happy enough with the results!
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that's become an nice bike.
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+1; nice you found a match on the mudguard. But no less of a mystery, right? Still no sign of a serial number? Wouldn't it be something if it were an Asian-made US-market Schwinn that made it to Scotland? The sun never sets on where that bike has been.....
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Nice job fixing that bike up. The Dawes is very cool as well.
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That ain't broke, merely bent. One of the many sterling qualities of steel. (Yes, I know it's been called the lowest form of the lowest form of humour.)
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