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Old 02-28-18, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I had a Ritchey Breakaway, the take-apart frame for air travel. It is not identical to the Logic in geometry and tubing, but it is extremely similar. Most comfortable frame I have ever ridden. Light, sturdy, reasonably priced, and comfy. What's not to like?
Actually to follow up a little more on this idea, why don't you give the Breakaway some consideration? If this bike will be one of several you have, then being a Breakaway will really have no downside. The weight penalty is negligible. And the upside is considerable. As I said above, the ride is superb. No sense whatever of the frame being in two pieces. Rock solid. And should you ever want to travel with a bike, well you will have one right there in your stable. The frame comes with the suitcase for carrying the bike. An all-around good idea...if I do say so myself.
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Do you really need an explanation?
Well with this sort of response, no i dont really need an explanation.
I was just surprised that you knew it comes from the same manufacturer.
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FWIW, Richey is one of the companies using Maxway Ltd Taiwan, for Manufacturing efficiencies to carry out their designs, in production numbers..


the maxway website says so..
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I realize this is a Ritchey thread, but if I were looking into steel race bikes or steel that can be raced on and still function as a commuter, really an all-around bike, what recommendations, if any would someone be willing to share? I looked at some of the DeRosa Corum, but I want to see what's out there.
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Perhaps only tangentially related, but I don't have a single bad word to say about my Ritchey Swiss Cross. It's a hair more relaxed and a tad longer than a Road Logic, but will also fit up to a 38 wide tire.
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How wide a tire can the Logic fit?
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Originally Posted by athrowawaynic
How wide a tire can the Logic fit?
Already answered


Originally Posted by Maaku
I have a lot of experience riding and traveling the past year with a 2018 Road Logic model with the 30C clearance. Easily clears a 29mm (inflated width) tire with latest-gen Campy Chorus brakes. Ride quality and bump absorption is excellent, as i'd expect with a steel frame.


(Photos are shown with 25c tire)
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I had a Ritchey Breakaway, the take-apart frame for air travel. It is not identical to the Logic in geometry and tubing, but it is extremely similar. Most comfortable frame I have ever ridden. Light, sturdy, reasonably priced, and comfy. What's not to like?
I have a bike friday as a travel bike, but I've always considered upgrading to a breakaway.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I had a Ritchey Breakaway, the take-apart frame for air travel. It is not identical to the Logic in geometry and tubing, but it is extremely similar. Most comfortable frame I have ever ridden. Light, sturdy, reasonably priced, and comfy. What's not to like?
How much of a hassle did the airlines give you? Hard or soft sided case?
I am seriously considering one for N+1 later in the year.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Well with this sort of response, no i dont really need an explanation.
I was just surprised that you knew it comes from the same manufacturer.
I guess my comment needs some explanation.

All I was saying is that even if both companies had their frames built in the same factory, it doesn’t mean that they have anything in common, other than the building they were built in.
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Originally Posted by turkey9186
How much of a hassle did the airlines give you? Hard or soft sided case?
I am seriously considering one for N+1 later in the year.
No hassle even though the case is technically oversized. If you can afford it, I would sell the Ritchey case on eBay and buy the S&S Machine case which is a true fit to the airline limits. No hassle on that one ever. It meets the specs. The Ritchey is soft-sided. The S&S is hard. I don’t like the soft sided. But I do like the Ritchey frame.
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My Breakaway Cross will hold a 33c in the rear and 48c in front


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Originally Posted by pickettt
My Breakaway Cross will hold a 33c in the rear and 48c in front


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mm, not c. The c is part of the wheel diameter/circumference designation, not the tire size. So 700c rim with a 700c, 32 mm tire. There is no such thing as 32c. Jus' sayin'.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
mm, not c. The c is part of the wheel diameter/circumference designation, not the tire size. So 700c rim with a 700c, 32 mm tire. There is no such thing as 32c. Jus' sayin'.
Right. Momentary lapse.
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Originally Posted by pickettt
Right. Momentary lapse.
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Thanks for managing to pretend I didn’t offend you. That means a lot to me.
I wasn't offended, I was wrong.


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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
mm, not c. The c is part of the wheel diameter/circumference designation, not the tire size. So 700c rim with a 700c, 32 mm tire. There is no such thing as 32c. Jus' sayin'.
Actually, the c part is a designation of tire width, just not that tire's width. The original French system had 700 as the overall diameter of the wheel (including tire) and A, B, C, or D as the tire widths. So you're right that the C has nothing to do with the 32mm width of that specific tire, but it did historically designate the tire width.

EDIT: I realize I'm being a pain in the ass with this post. Sorry
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Originally Posted by TenGrainBread
Actually, the c part is a designation of tire width, just not that tire's width. The original French system had 700 as the overall diameter of the wheel (including tire) and A, B, C, or D as the tire widths. So you're right that the C has nothing to do with the 32mm width of that specific tire, but it did historically designate the tire width.

EDIT: I realize I'm being a pain in the ass with this post. Sorry
Good catch. Thanks.
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Old thread but still relevant. Considering either an All City Zig Zag or new Road Logic Disc. Leaning towards the Ritchey. Any thoughts on relative frame quality, ride?
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Old thread but still relevant. Considering either an All City Zig Zag or new Road Logic Disc. Leaning towards the Ritchey. Any thoughts on relative frame quality, ride?
The All city has more tire clearance. 35mm vs 30mm.
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These are still welded in Wisconsin, and with a fine pedigree going back to the Paramounts of yore:



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Originally Posted by TV59
Old thread but still relevant. Considering either an All City Zig Zag or new Road Logic Disc. Leaning towards the Ritchey. Any thoughts on relative frame quality, ride?
Originally Posted by noodle soup
The All city has more tire clearance. 35mm vs 30mm.
The Zig Zag also can take fenders.
FWIW I'm still riding my Road Logic. And I still love it.

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These are still welded in Wisconsin, and with a fine pedigree going back to the Paramounts of yore:

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A Roadie Disc or a Sport Disc would be closer to a Road Logic or a Zig Zag.
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Originally Posted by TV59
Old thread but still relevant. Considering either an All City Zig Zag or new Road Logic Disc. Leaning towards the Ritchey. Any thoughts on relative frame quality, ride?
Best of both- zig zag frame with ritchey cockpit. Boom, done.

Zip zag's fade paint schemes are flat out awesome. Internal fork routing for brake hose is nice. Clearance for 32mm tires is nice(if desired).
The downside is a lack of value for the price of full build bikes. I've run thru a detailed build of that frame which results in a cheaper price for equal quality components or a higher spec level of components for the same price of a full build bike.

The Ritchey is an iconic brand thats super respected. And Tom is awesome. The paint scheme is nice, but certainly more subdued. External hose routing for the front brake is odd.
That company's insistence on sticking to 1 1/8 steerers is impressive. I cant say I disagree- I'm sure the front end would be stiff enough for me, even though it doesn't use a massive 44mm head tube and tepered steerer.


As for tubing quality, I wouldn't try to discern which is nicer or 'better'. I would focus on geometry and fit. Based on the largest size for example, the ritchey will steer a bit 'quicker' as it has slightly shorter trail.
Find which has stack and reach that fit you best.

The frames are both quality.
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I think I just figured out why all the online bike shops have no headset spacers in stock.
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curious to know what I am looking at.
4 cables leave the bar tape. 1 goes to a front brake, 1 to a rear brake, and the other two go where? Both are on the back left dropout it appears.
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