Bianchi Quattro info needed
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Bianchi Quattro info needed
I saw this Bianchi Quattro for sale ($175) and this is the only info given...
I would guess it to be around 1988 (or so) and it looks like it's in very nice shape.
Is $175 a decent price and does it leave any room to make a couple of bucks flipping it?
Thanks,
Ian
23" Columbus frame (Cromor) making it light yet sturdy to last.
Equipped with;
Quattro 21 speed shifting equipment, (it's actually 14 speeds as it's only a double front)
Modolo brakes,
original Bianchi saddle,
engraved handlebars with ITALMANUBRI and ITM MOD. MONDIAL with Made in Italy and
FIR EL19 tire frames.
Equipped with;
Quattro 21 speed shifting equipment, (it's actually 14 speeds as it's only a double front)
Modolo brakes,
original Bianchi saddle,
engraved handlebars with ITALMANUBRI and ITM MOD. MONDIAL with Made in Italy and
FIR EL19 tire frames.
Is $175 a decent price and does it leave any room to make a couple of bucks flipping it?
Thanks,
Ian
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Are you in Canada? The color is off for a US market bike but it looks and sounds like a '89 Campione de Italia.
$175 is a decent price for this.
$175 is a decent price for this.
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Agree $175 is pretty decent. With a little "show+shine" you could get $250 as a flip (hint: sell the rack seperately).
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Yeah, the rack is a gonner if I get the bike.
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Quattro bottom bracket tech advice
Hello everyone! I am new to the site and am looking for advice. I just acquired a Bianchi Quattro partial bike minus bottom bracket, crankset and seat post. Made the mistake of assuming this was a Japanese model. Needless to say my English threaded BB will not be used. I am not familiar with Italian threaded specs at all. Anything I need to be aware of? Once I install the proper square tapered BB can I then use a Shimano crankset or are the cranksets also propriatory? Second, anyone know what the seat post diameter needs to be for this frame as 27.2 is too big? Finally, if you were building this up would you use stock "Quattro" branded kit or switch over to Shimano 600 Arabesque. I have the entire 600 groupset in a bin waiting to be installed on steel. Thanks in advance.
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Welcome to the forums. A Shimano 600EX (i.e. Arabeseque) group is more dated than the Quattro group. The Quattro derailleurs by SunTour are indexed but even in friction mode should outperform 600EX due to the slant parallelogram design. The Modolo manufactured Quattro brakes have aero cable routing which 600EX doesn't. Hubs and headset would be comparable. Unless the Quattro is really worn or scarred, I would leave it on the bicycle.
The Quattro I've seen have all been Columbus Cromor, which uses a 27.2mm seat post. Maybe your cinch slot is slightly pinched? Try gently prying it open with a wide, flat bladed screwdriver, until the slot is slightly wider at the top than the bottom.
With the exception of the SR Silver ctranksets, all square taper cranks and spindles are 2 degree taper. Consequently they will be compatible but there are slight diiferences in the lentht and end width of the taper that affect the amount of engagement and consequently the chain line. Getting a satisfactory chain line is often a case of trial and era by trying different spindle lengths..
All Italian square taper bottom brackets are 70mm shell width and 36mm x 24 TPI threading. The only variable is the spindle length, necessary to achieve the proper chain line with the chosen crankset. The only precaution during installation is that the fixed cup is right hand threaded, as opposed to the left hand thread used on English fixed cups. Otherwise, treat them as any other bottom bracket.
The Quattro I've seen have all been Columbus Cromor, which uses a 27.2mm seat post. Maybe your cinch slot is slightly pinched? Try gently prying it open with a wide, flat bladed screwdriver, until the slot is slightly wider at the top than the bottom.
With the exception of the SR Silver ctranksets, all square taper cranks and spindles are 2 degree taper. Consequently they will be compatible but there are slight diiferences in the lentht and end width of the taper that affect the amount of engagement and consequently the chain line. Getting a satisfactory chain line is often a case of trial and era by trying different spindle lengths..
All Italian square taper bottom brackets are 70mm shell width and 36mm x 24 TPI threading. The only variable is the spindle length, necessary to achieve the proper chain line with the chosen crankset. The only precaution during installation is that the fixed cup is right hand threaded, as opposed to the left hand thread used on English fixed cups. Otherwise, treat them as any other bottom bracket.
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Thanks for the quick feedback. I did some pre-season before posting and have been impressed by your technical knowledge. More questions to follow ... like to re-paint or not. Pretty worn paint in a few spots.
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I'd use most anything but Quattro. Suntoru, Ofmega, and Modolo all make good stuff but the Quattro wasn't their best effort. as pointed out the 600 Arabesque is older than the frame but would look good on it.
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Thanks Bianchi Girl. Reflecting upon previous reading you and T-Mar know your business. The Arabesque stuff is really nice craftsmanship and that is why I would consider putting it on an anachronistic by beautiful Celeste frame. Lots to do this winter as I will be doing work on 3 Bianchis and one Montini ... whatever that is. It had a nice full 105 grouppo so I snagged it for 25$ CAD. Any thoughts on Golden Arrow components on one ofb he Bianchis?
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Should work just fine.
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Quattro seat rube
Welcome to the forums. A Shimano 600EX (i.e. Arabeseque) group is more dated than the Quattro group. The Quattro derailleurs by SunTour are indexed but even in friction mode should outperform 600EX due to the slant parallelogram design. The Modolo manufactured Quattro brakes have aero cable routing which 600EX doesn't. Hubs and headset would be comparable. Unless the Quattro is really worn or scarred, I would leave it on the bicycle.
The Quattro I've seen have all been Columbus Cromor, which uses a 27.2mm seat post. Maybe your cinch slot is slightly pinched? Try gently prying it open with a wide, flat bladed screwdriver, until the slot is slightly wider at the top than the bottom.
With the exception of the SR Silver ctranksets, all square taper cranks and spindles are 2 degree taper. Consequently they will be compatible but there are slight diiferences in the lentht and end width of the taper that affect the amount of engagement and consequently the chain line. Getting a satisfactory chain line is often a case of trial and era by trying different spindle lengths..
All Italian square taper bottom brackets are 70mm shell width and 36mm x 24 TPI threading. The only variable is the spindle length, necessary to achieve the proper chain line with the chosen crankset. The only precaution during installation is that the fixed cup is right hand threaded, as opposed to the left hand thread used on English fixed cups. Otherwise, treat them as any other bottom bracket.
The Quattro I've seen have all been Columbus Cromor, which uses a 27.2mm seat post. Maybe your cinch slot is slightly pinched? Try gently prying it open with a wide, flat bladed screwdriver, until the slot is slightly wider at the top than the bottom.
With the exception of the SR Silver ctranksets, all square taper cranks and spindles are 2 degree taper. Consequently they will be compatible but there are slight diiferences in the lentht and end width of the taper that affect the amount of engagement and consequently the chain line. Getting a satisfactory chain line is often a case of trial and era by trying different spindle lengths..
All Italian square taper bottom brackets are 70mm shell width and 36mm x 24 TPI threading. The only variable is the spindle length, necessary to achieve the proper chain line with the chosen crankset. The only precaution during installation is that the fixed cup is right hand threaded, as opposed to the left hand thread used on English fixed cups. Otherwise, treat them as any other bottom bracket.
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The matching Quattro shift levers had Accushift labels, so they were re-branded SunTour. Specifically, the derailleurs appear to be re-branded SunTour Cyclone 7000, so the indexing is 1st generation Accushift and not up to SIS standards.
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Thanks T-Mar. I will have more questions soon about my new to me Marinoni.
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Other than the transfer on the TT, does the Quattro frame differ somehow from the Cd'I? Were the two models offered concurrently?
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