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Sleep easy knowing the bike you missed probably has a stuck seatpost.
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As others have said, "flip" just money, "grail/keeper" I would be bummed....move on there are others.
I can trump your loss and raise you a bunch....350.00 for this.
Spoke to the seller and said I would buy it and offered to make payment with PP but was told no need too because its mine. He gave me an address and told me to meet him in 1 hour only to find while driving he had told another buyer to meet him....the rest is history.
Do you feel better now?
Cinelli TT in the garage for over 20 years, no damage anywhere.
I can trump your loss and raise you a bunch....350.00 for this.
Spoke to the seller and said I would buy it and offered to make payment with PP but was told no need too because its mine. He gave me an address and told me to meet him in 1 hour only to find while driving he had told another buyer to meet him....the rest is history.
Do you feel better now?
Cinelli TT in the garage for over 20 years, no damage anywhere.
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Yeah, that one's gonna sting for a while. Bummer.
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F531,
Only for a day...I only obsess over what I can control and things that I have no control over...well I have no control so I let go.
I did what I could to secure the deal and that was all I could do, the seller did the rest. Life is too short to look back..coulda shoulda woulda....it was not meant to be.
Best, Ben
Only for a day...I only obsess over what I can control and things that I have no control over...well I have no control so I let go.
I did what I could to secure the deal and that was all I could do, the seller did the rest. Life is too short to look back..coulda shoulda woulda....it was not meant to be.
Best, Ben
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Big thanks again to xiaoman1 for pointing me here, as I was just about to open a thread like this.
Because of Miele Man 's post and as it's the recent missed I'll start with this one....
It popped up on French market for a laughable EUR90 as pictured.
Tough lesson, not to think for a second just press the buy button, and consider money for anything else, fights and maybe divorce and literally everything else later.
To make it worse, the same time the rather rare Mavic RD+FD and shifters were there as well for EUR80 (usually by us only a RD is 150+) they disappeared together with the frame so I guess the same new owner bought both.
Because of Miele Man 's post and as it's the recent missed I'll start with this one....
It popped up on French market for a laughable EUR90 as pictured.
Tough lesson, not to think for a second just press the buy button, and consider money for anything else, fights and maybe divorce and literally everything else later.
To make it worse, the same time the rather rare Mavic RD+FD and shifters were there as well for EUR80 (usually by us only a RD is 150+) they disappeared together with the frame so I guess the same new owner bought both.
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I missed a Univega Specialissima and am kicking myself.
It just happens that I had bought a 1980 Univega Gran Turismo a week or so earlier to replace one that had been ripped off thirty years prior. Then I joined this group and promptly learned that the 1980 Gran Turismo did NOT have double-butted tubing that particular year. I was mildly disappointed.
So I searched for another Univega and immediately found a nice looking Specialissima within striking distance. However, the wife took a dim view of me getting two bikes within a week of each other, so I let it go. I'd found it so easily that I figured such bikes are out there ripe for the picking. Not so.
So the search continues...
It just happens that I had bought a 1980 Univega Gran Turismo a week or so earlier to replace one that had been ripped off thirty years prior. Then I joined this group and promptly learned that the 1980 Gran Turismo did NOT have double-butted tubing that particular year. I was mildly disappointed.
So I searched for another Univega and immediately found a nice looking Specialissima within striking distance. However, the wife took a dim view of me getting two bikes within a week of each other, so I let it go. I'd found it so easily that I figured such bikes are out there ripe for the picking. Not so.
So the search continues...
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I missed a Univega Specialissima and am kicking myself.
It just happens that I had bought a 1980 Univega Gran Turismo a week or so earlier to replace one that had been ripped off thirty years prior. Then I joined this group and promptly learned that the 1980 Gran Turismo did NOT have double-butted tubing that particular year. I was mildly disappointed.
So I searched for another Univega and immediately found a nice looking Specialissima within striking distance. However, the wife took a dim view of me getting two bikes within a week of each other, so I let it go. I'd found it so easily that I figured such bikes are out there ripe for the picking. Not so.
So the search continues...
It just happens that I had bought a 1980 Univega Gran Turismo a week or so earlier to replace one that had been ripped off thirty years prior. Then I joined this group and promptly learned that the 1980 Gran Turismo did NOT have double-butted tubing that particular year. I was mildly disappointed.
So I searched for another Univega and immediately found a nice looking Specialissima within striking distance. However, the wife took a dim view of me getting two bikes within a week of each other, so I let it go. I'd found it so easily that I figured such bikes are out there ripe for the picking. Not so.
So the search continues...
As they say modern problems require modern solutions....
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Had a couple of those recently, including a Tommasini Velocista on local craigslist that I missed by a day. It was't exactly cheap ($900 with a mishmash of Campagnolo parts), but it was my size and they seem to be quite special.
As others have said, no matter how difficult it may be in the moment, trusting your instinct and pulling the trigger quickly is usually the way to go. I got two bikes locally in quick succession when I first got the bug. I almost balked at them because it seemed like too much too soon, but I've never seen anything similar to them listed locally since then, so I'm very glad I didn't hesitate.
As others have said, no matter how difficult it may be in the moment, trusting your instinct and pulling the trigger quickly is usually the way to go. I got two bikes locally in quick succession when I first got the bug. I almost balked at them because it seemed like too much too soon, but I've never seen anything similar to them listed locally since then, so I'm very glad I didn't hesitate.
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Bumped into this one a month ago on Italian classifieds. Could hardly believe the asking price of EUR300. Was online for an hour and without hesitation (see my advice above) asked the guy if he is willing to pack it (knowing they are 90% not willing to ship, even packing is mostly hopeless) so I can send courier for it. Much to my surprise he answered "yeah Im checking the costs of packing and will come back to you". Came back next day that he got the bike packed but it is fair if he sells it to the guy who was 15 mins. faster than me. Wrote to my biker friend immediately if it was him after he just bought a white Somec (after I got my red one) but this was a way better model. You can never be sure.... but it wasnt him.
This was painful...
This was painful...
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Another Somec, this time a Promax CZ. Columbus Max bikes are rarely cheap, Somex Max bikes never. CZ is the lugged version. Guy was expecting offers so i "generously" offered EUR 350 to see if he knows what he sells or just able to read the text on the lugs. He wrote back that he wants 600 because of the expensive wheels (yeah... that's still a good price) whci worth like 300. I was stupield enough to ask him to part it and offered for frame+fork and full bike minus wheels as well. Bike was still online for two more weeks and didnt let me sleep so when i decided to pull the trigger was gone.
The Promax is anyway galaxies away from my league usually cost 1000+ and the CZ even more. This would have been perfect because of tje black spray paint, if I wash and tjeres the origm underneath then its a jackpot. If not and needs a respray also not a problem and at least I dont have the usual headache with bad originals that I feel bad about removing them.
The Promax is anyway galaxies away from my league usually cost 1000+ and the CZ even more. This would have been perfect because of tje black spray paint, if I wash and tjeres the origm underneath then its a jackpot. If not and needs a respray also not a problem and at least I dont have the usual headache with bad originals that I feel bad about removing them.
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Already listed for sale.
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And check and see if it’s really a 57.
Looks like a 55.
Plus, seatpost is set ridiculously high.
Looks like a 55.
Plus, seatpost is set ridiculously high.
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Well, this ad scored the trifecta.
-poor description
-terrible pics
-seller who does not respond in any manner (i replied 13 minutes after the ad was posted)
i have many other projects right now, so i'm only moderately bummed about not getting it. would have been a good clunker challenge bike, then a flip.
-poor description
-terrible pics
-seller who does not respond in any manner (i replied 13 minutes after the ad was posted)
i have many other projects right now, so i'm only moderately bummed about not getting it. would have been a good clunker challenge bike, then a flip.
I have noticed that Sellers often reconsider the sale when they’ve got 10 people messaging them in the first 20 minutes. I have waited a couple of days only to receive a “I’ve changed my mind about the sale.” Bummer.
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I had some tools down in Redding, CA that I wanted to purchase. I called the seller. Then sent several texts
Then as I was getting ready to hop in the pickup to head south... it would be a long drive, I got a text back that he sold it to someone else.
Another one of those annoying sellers that I hate. Makes a "deal"... then sells it to someone else.
I suppose I should feel lucky that I didn't drive 6 or 8 hours (each way) and have him break the deal.
Then as I was getting ready to hop in the pickup to head south... it would be a long drive, I got a text back that he sold it to someone else.
Another one of those annoying sellers that I hate. Makes a "deal"... then sells it to someone else.
I suppose I should feel lucky that I didn't drive 6 or 8 hours (each way) and have him break the deal.
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Sure, we've all dealt with idiotic Craigslist sellers out there, but this woman was too greedy not to have this coming to her:
I collect vintage road bicycles, of which one showed up on our local Craigslist for $100, being sold by Greedy Bicycle Lady (G.B.L.). It is an upper-entry-level road bike by one of the better English manufacturers of the 1970s. At best, it's worth $300 cleaned, fixed up, and perfect. As it is now, $200-250 tops.
I know a good deal when I see one, so I email G.B.L. with my phone number and tell her I can come by within the hour and buy it. Shortly thereafter, I receive this response in my inbox:
"Ok, So I know realize that the bike is worth more. I've upped my price to $200. Give me a call if you're interested."
It's not as good a deal as before, but it's still a bike I'd like to have in my collection. This time, I call her to confirm an appointment time.
I haven't been talking to her for 30 seconds before I am informed that the price is now $350, based on the latest inquiry she has had, which have been "numerous."
I don't mind a bit of friendly competition, but this is ridiculous. Sure, she has a right to getting what the market will offer, but deals cannot be made with sellers that cannot stand behind their word. I ask if she's willing to stand by this price if I commit to driving halfway across town to pick it up right that minute.
"No."
"Lady, I doubt you'll find anyone willing to put up with this nonsense. I could drive across town and find that you've doubled the price by the time I get there. Good day."
Edit: I think it should be noted that I'm really not interested in the bike anymore at this point. Vintage roadbikes were unusually common in my city at the time of this story, and I knew - with time - I could put my efforts towards something much nicer (and I did, with the acquisition of two chrome Schwinn Paramounts shortly thereafter). Not to mention that my collection was already quite sizable (at the time, a fleet of over 15 classic and vintage road and touring bicycles. Yes, I had the N=N+1 syndrome quite bad back then).
But back to the story. My last email seemed to end any hope of further discussion...but too many old movies have taught me that the greedy person is the easiest to have "fun" with. Especially when "spare" email addresses are close at hand. No longer was it about the bike.
Within 10 minutes, G. B. L. had a $500 offer from Mr. A, ready to come by. And 5 minutes later, Mr. B just had to have the bike for $750. And thus G.B.L. told Mr. A that the price was now $850. So Mr. A confirmed that he'd match that offer, while Mr. B dropped out.
But then Mr. C pops up: "will buy now no questions asked $1,500"
And of course, G.B.L. will take Mr. C's offer any day of the week. But Mr. C can't commit to show up until the weekend - almost a week later. That's fine with her. Mr. A, however, soon gets an email with the new $1,500 price. Mr. A can match it.
But Mr. A drops off the face of the earth come his appointment time the next day.
So she tries to get Mr. C back, who confirms for that weekend...then drops off the face of the earth too.
The day after Mr. C. misses his appointment, Mr. A gets back in touch with our greedy bicycle-owning friend, who apologies for his "family emergency." He makes an appointment for the weekend after.
...and Mr. A misses that appointment too.
In the meantime, Mr. B wants to know if she'll do his $750, as the "ad still appears to be up."
...and Mr. B doesn't show up for his appointment.
And thus begins a vicious circle of emails from Bicycle Lady to Mr. A, B, and C, as she desperately tries to get at least one sucker with more money than brains to her doorstep, following three weeks of runaround.
Of course, nobody ever replies - and by this point, no real buyers from Craigslist are willing to bother with her nonsense either.
And so the bike disappears off Craigslist. But almost exactly a year later, G.B.L. posts the bike back up. Same seller name, new pictures, nothing done to improve the bike's condition. The asking price is a flat $500.
Thus I emailed her from my original address (as myself), just to be a pest:
"Remember me, lady? When you want to talk about that $200 price again, give me a call. Maybe you'll actually get to sell it this time."
Rimshot.
I collect vintage road bicycles, of which one showed up on our local Craigslist for $100, being sold by Greedy Bicycle Lady (G.B.L.). It is an upper-entry-level road bike by one of the better English manufacturers of the 1970s. At best, it's worth $300 cleaned, fixed up, and perfect. As it is now, $200-250 tops.
I know a good deal when I see one, so I email G.B.L. with my phone number and tell her I can come by within the hour and buy it. Shortly thereafter, I receive this response in my inbox:
"Ok, So I know realize that the bike is worth more. I've upped my price to $200. Give me a call if you're interested."
It's not as good a deal as before, but it's still a bike I'd like to have in my collection. This time, I call her to confirm an appointment time.
I haven't been talking to her for 30 seconds before I am informed that the price is now $350, based on the latest inquiry she has had, which have been "numerous."
I don't mind a bit of friendly competition, but this is ridiculous. Sure, she has a right to getting what the market will offer, but deals cannot be made with sellers that cannot stand behind their word. I ask if she's willing to stand by this price if I commit to driving halfway across town to pick it up right that minute.
"No."
"Lady, I doubt you'll find anyone willing to put up with this nonsense. I could drive across town and find that you've doubled the price by the time I get there. Good day."
Edit: I think it should be noted that I'm really not interested in the bike anymore at this point. Vintage roadbikes were unusually common in my city at the time of this story, and I knew - with time - I could put my efforts towards something much nicer (and I did, with the acquisition of two chrome Schwinn Paramounts shortly thereafter). Not to mention that my collection was already quite sizable (at the time, a fleet of over 15 classic and vintage road and touring bicycles. Yes, I had the N=N+1 syndrome quite bad back then).
But back to the story. My last email seemed to end any hope of further discussion...but too many old movies have taught me that the greedy person is the easiest to have "fun" with. Especially when "spare" email addresses are close at hand. No longer was it about the bike.
Within 10 minutes, G. B. L. had a $500 offer from Mr. A, ready to come by. And 5 minutes later, Mr. B just had to have the bike for $750. And thus G.B.L. told Mr. A that the price was now $850. So Mr. A confirmed that he'd match that offer, while Mr. B dropped out.
But then Mr. C pops up: "will buy now no questions asked $1,500"
And of course, G.B.L. will take Mr. C's offer any day of the week. But Mr. C can't commit to show up until the weekend - almost a week later. That's fine with her. Mr. A, however, soon gets an email with the new $1,500 price. Mr. A can match it.
But Mr. A drops off the face of the earth come his appointment time the next day.
So she tries to get Mr. C back, who confirms for that weekend...then drops off the face of the earth too.
The day after Mr. C. misses his appointment, Mr. A gets back in touch with our greedy bicycle-owning friend, who apologies for his "family emergency." He makes an appointment for the weekend after.
...and Mr. A misses that appointment too.
In the meantime, Mr. B wants to know if she'll do his $750, as the "ad still appears to be up."
...and Mr. B doesn't show up for his appointment.
And thus begins a vicious circle of emails from Bicycle Lady to Mr. A, B, and C, as she desperately tries to get at least one sucker with more money than brains to her doorstep, following three weeks of runaround.
Of course, nobody ever replies - and by this point, no real buyers from Craigslist are willing to bother with her nonsense either.
And so the bike disappears off Craigslist. But almost exactly a year later, G.B.L. posts the bike back up. Same seller name, new pictures, nothing done to improve the bike's condition. The asking price is a flat $500.
Thus I emailed her from my original address (as myself), just to be a pest:
"Remember me, lady? When you want to talk about that $200 price again, give me a call. Maybe you'll actually get to sell it this time."
Rimshot.
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"Remember me, lady? When you want to talk about that $200 price again, give me a call. Maybe you'll actually get to sell it this time."
And, I'd have to be pretty desperate to deal with someone like that. Perhaps go back to the original $100 asking price.
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Indulge a non-bike story. I always liked the Gen 1 Ford Broncos. A guy I worked with in the early 90s had one in a really ugly color scheme. We would talk about it a lot. He finally offered it to me for I think $2000, I passed as I just started teaching and had a new baby and new mortgage. I saw him a month or so ago and brought up the Bronco. He told me he sold it for $3000 but did not realize until later that it was a special edition now worth $75,000 to $100,000.
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Vintage bike
$20
"70-80's Italian bike with tubulars. Beautiful Classic Campagnolo components. Signed frame from the maker. OBO"
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...4343725805648/
(Expressed my interest, and willingness to pay the full price as soon as I saw the post.
I thought it a sufferable entry in the Covid Clunker Challenge. It does rock a dork disc? Sure, it's a Campagnolo dork disc, but it is a dork disc!
I was the second responder and the seller told me if the first responder fell through....and we all know how that goes.
<sad face emoji>)
(As near as I can discern, the maker was Renato Negri. The "signature" is a tribute by the son who owned the shop to his father, the elder Freschi. who founded the shop.)
$20
"70-80's Italian bike with tubulars. Beautiful Classic Campagnolo components. Signed frame from the maker. OBO"
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...4343725805648/
(Expressed my interest, and willingness to pay the full price as soon as I saw the post.
I thought it a sufferable entry in the Covid Clunker Challenge. It does rock a dork disc? Sure, it's a Campagnolo dork disc, but it is a dork disc!
I was the second responder and the seller told me if the first responder fell through....and we all know how that goes.
<sad face emoji>)
(As near as I can discern, the maker was Renato Negri. The "signature" is a tribute by the son who owned the shop to his father, the elder Freschi. who founded the shop.)