Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Commuting
Reload this Page >

Drafted by a stranger....is this common?

Search
Notices
Commuting Bicycle commuting is easier than you think, before you know it, you'll be hooked. Learn the tips, hints, equipment, safety requirements for safely riding your bike to work.

Drafted by a stranger....is this common?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-16-15, 11:08 AM
  #26  
catgita
Senior Member
 
catgita's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 765

Bikes: Fitz randonneuse, Trek Superfly/AL, Tsunami SS, Bacchetta, HPV Speed Machine, Rans Screamer

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 100 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts
On commutes it is very unusual. On weekend rides, people can't resist grabbing the wheel of a guy 6'-6" and 240 pounds cruising the flats at 20. I don't usually mind, but I give a lot of space myself. Scary when I do it, me thinks.

When I occasionally pull out a recumbent bike, fun thing to do is follow a pack of roadies 50' back, and watch it slowly disintegrate as they try to stay ahead, falling off the back 1 or 2 at a time.
catgita is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 08:33 AM
  #27  
TheReal Houdini
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vienna, VA
Posts: 221

Bikes: Cervelo P3 (retired), Habanero Road, Novara Safari, Batavus Personal Delivery Bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I sometimes draft strangers but only after assessing their riding abilities and, approaching from the side, requesting permission. When people approach me this way I respond favorably. I don’t respond well to people drafting without asking and especially without letting me know they’re back there.

When I don’t want to be drafted, which is most of the time, as I approach a rider going close to my speed I slow down for maybe 30 seconds to rest up – not drafting but as I close the distance – and then accelerate past. This tends to discourage people from hopping on.
TheReal Houdini is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 09:24 AM
  #28  
scroca
commuter and barbarian
 
scroca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Potomac, MT, USA
Posts: 2,494
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
I am surprised to see how many posters experience that kind of thing regularly.

I agree with others who have said it is not cool and even can be dangerous to draft a stranger without even notifying them. That said, it's possible the guy just didn't know he was doing anything wrong.

I suppose the solution would be situational. If there's time, maybe take the opportunity to educate the drafter (Of course, the OP didn't know the guy was there until he was about to turn.). Otherwise, I'd probably just slow down gradually until he got off my wheel.
scroca is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 02:16 PM
  #29  
Marc40a
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: North Shore, MA
Posts: 206

Bikes: Jamis Aurora, Rivendell Sam Hillborne, Surly ECR, Serotta CSI

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by f4rrest
Maybe he mistook your smile and wave for The Look, and was just saving energy to drope the hamer on you, but you foiled the plan by turning off.

Kinda creepy close to home though.
Marc40a is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 04:30 PM
  #30  
locolobo13 
Senior Member
 
locolobo13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Phx, AZ
Posts: 2,112

Bikes: Trek Mtn Bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 281 Post(s)
Liked 2,634 Times in 945 Posts
Doesn't happen often to me. But sometimes another rider gets stuck behind me. If traffic is heavy enough it can take a while before they can break loose and get around. And sometimes I'm the one stuck behind the other rider. I don't tuck in too close tho.
locolobo13 is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 04:45 PM
  #31  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,598

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,355 Times in 862 Posts
Projectile nose blowing may find it's mark.


turn your head and say , your turn to pull !! or just pull off and stop and let them go..




Blinking taillights drive me bonkers so I took another street to not follow a well known neighbor at night

That was winter a few years ago, Now, Don't have to at all , since I moved ..

Last edited by fietsbob; 08-19-15 at 08:07 AM.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 05:19 PM
  #32  
SnowJob
Dirt junkie.
 
SnowJob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 406

Bikes: Surly Ice Cream Truck, Peacock Groove road bikem, Salsa Fargo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
I've had this happen. It's weird. The last one was a tri-dork; I heard the hollow sound of his aero wheel for a while before I checked my six and noticed him. I told him he needed to ask before he drafts. You'd think that'd be just common sense and decency.
SnowJob is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 05:51 PM
  #33  
kickstart
Senior Member
 
kickstart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Kent Wa.
Posts: 5,332

Bikes: 2005 Gazelle Golfo, 1935 Raleigh Sport, 1970 Robin Hood sport, 1974 Schwinn Continental, 1984 Ross MTB/porteur, 2013 Flying Piegon path racer, 2014 Gazelle Toer Populair T8

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 396 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts
I can kinda see where one might assume its OK, if its a fully kitted roadie, but I've had it happen to me when on my Dutch bike with baskets loaded to the gills and wearing street clothes......
kickstart is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 06:23 PM
  #34  
tjspiel
Senior Member
 
tjspiel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 8,101
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 52 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 17 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by SnowJob
I've had this happen. It's weird. The last one was a tri-dork; I heard the hollow sound of his aero wheel for a while before I checked my six and noticed him. I told him he needed to ask before he drafts. You'd think that'd be just common sense and decency.
Kinda of an odd thing for a triathlete to do. Drafting isn't legal in most triathlons. You should have given him a 3 minute penalty.
tjspiel is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 07:38 PM
  #35  
Reynolds 
Passista
 
Reynolds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,596

Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 866 Post(s)
Liked 720 Times in 395 Posts
Happened to me many times, no big deal.

Attached Images
File Type: jpg
Geezerwheel.jpg (72.7 KB, 55 views)
Reynolds is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 07:43 PM
  #36  
TheManShow
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Sonoran Desert-U.S.A.
Posts: 663

Bikes: Old rusty bucket of bolts

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by caloso
Totally not cool.
People do not think about totally not cool, they only think about "me". Welcome to 2015.
TheManShow is offline  
Old 08-17-15, 08:07 PM
  #37  
SnowJob
Dirt junkie.
 
SnowJob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 406

Bikes: Surly Ice Cream Truck, Peacock Groove road bikem, Salsa Fargo

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by tjspiel
Kinda of an odd thing for a triathlete to do. Drafting isn't legal in most triathlons. You should have given him a 3 minute penalty.
I thought it was really weird, especially as I was riding in jeans, a t-shirt and a backpack. Like I said, I wasn't even going that fast. However, I'm not sure how great a triathlete that guy was: in his spandex he looked like too much sausage in too little casing.
SnowJob is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 03:55 AM
  #38  
wolfchild
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mississauga/Toronto, Ontario canada
Posts: 8,721

Bikes: I have 3 singlespeed/fixed gear bikes

Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4227 Post(s)
Liked 2,488 Times in 1,286 Posts
Originally Posted by SnowJob
I'm not sure how great a triathlete that guy was: in his spandex he looked like too much sausage in too little casing.
He was probably a poser or wannabe and was only trying to imitate what he saw on YouTube. There are a lot of them out there.
wolfchild is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 08:58 AM
  #39  
GovernorSilver
Senior Member
 
GovernorSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Washington DC Metro Area
Posts: 1,218

Bikes: Breezer Uptown 8, Jamis Renegade Expert

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Yup, it's common here - usually on the MUPs. I ride too slow on the MUPs to "pull" anybody to their benefit, but sometimes I'll get tailgated by someone waiting to pass me but can't right that moment because of opposing traffic.
GovernorSilver is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 10:46 AM
  #40  
m00nset
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Reynolds
Happened to me many times, no big deal.

HAHA!!! exactly....
m00nset is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 11:06 AM
  #41  
rmfnla
Senior Member
 
rmfnla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: La La Land (We love it!)
Posts: 6,301

Bikes: Gilmour road, Curtlo road; both steel (of course)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by m00nset
I give a nod and a "have a nice ride", but barely get a nod in return.
Must have been Jeff the Cyclist...

https://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/uc...m/pb120730.gif
__________________
Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here...
rmfnla is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 11:54 AM
  #42  
Leebo
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North of Boston
Posts: 5,721

Bikes: Kona Dawg, Surly 1x1, Karate Monkey, Rockhopper, Crosscheck , Burley Runabout,

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 854 Post(s)
Liked 111 Times in 66 Posts
I use my mirror. Usually I'm too slow for the road riders.
Leebo is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 12:04 PM
  #43  
TheReal Houdini
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Vienna, VA
Posts: 221

Bikes: Cervelo P3 (retired), Habanero Road, Novara Safari, Batavus Personal Delivery Bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SnowJob
I've had this happen. It's weird. The last one was a tri-dork; I heard the hollow sound of his aero wheel for a while before I checked my six and noticed him. I told him he needed to ask before he drafts. You'd think that'd be just common sense and decency.
That’s especially bad. He can’t get to his brakes fast enough.
TheReal Houdini is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 02:12 PM
  #44  
jfowler85
Senior Member
 
jfowler85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Zinj
Posts: 1,826

Bikes: '93 911 Turbo 3.6

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 109 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by achoo
Asswipe move. Period.
Pee on him!!
jfowler85 is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 02:25 PM
  #45  
DiabloScott
It's MY mountain
 
DiabloScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,001

Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek

Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4336 Post(s)
Liked 2,977 Times in 1,614 Posts
I have this ability to miss potholes by millimeters. Drafters have a 50% chance of being a few millimeters on the wrong side for any particular pothole.
DiabloScott is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 02:43 PM
  #46  
rmfnla
Senior Member
 
rmfnla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: La La Land (We love it!)
Posts: 6,301

Bikes: Gilmour road, Curtlo road; both steel (of course)

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 273 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Originally Posted by yamsyamsyams
Happens to me all the time but mostly in the summertime when the newbs come out. On my commuter I have a mirror and I'll see some guy I just passed on a serious road bike with platform pedals draft me - a commuter hybrid bike with dual panniers. I ride a steady pace so I'm not too concerned but it is a bit annoying to always see them behind me when I'm checking for cars.
I've had people follow me but never close enough to be considered drafting...
__________________
Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here...
rmfnla is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 03:39 PM
  #47  
alathIN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 496

Bikes: Volagi Viaje (rando/gravel/tour), Cannondale Slice 4 (tri/TT), Motobecane Fantom PLUS X9 (plus tires MTB)

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 97 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I commute with panniers and have had this happen to me exactly once. I did know she was there right away, and thought about dropping her, but soon realized she was a reasonably competent rider, paid attention to signals, etc., so I let her stay there about 10 miles until I turned off. Incident did not bother me, but if she had done anything whacky or dangerous I would have been irritated.

I don't draft other people except in group rides where people are expecting it.
alathIN is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 09:34 PM
  #48  
NeedARealBike
Senior Member
 
NeedARealBike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Seal Beach, CA
Posts: 100

Bikes: Cinelli Bootleg Hobo - Railway 2015

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 19 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
You gotta love the mentally unstable ragers frequenting this forum lmao it is funny but not uncommon. He probably redlined himself climbing too hard. I used to head back to the beach a couple years back on commute through a river trail and notice sometimes the lycra people draft me. I was pretty good at hammering through it though, 16 mph on a crappy hybrid was pretty good, seated up higher so I blocked a good portion of the wind. I prefer to not ride close and have clip on aerobars on a road bike now so it's no issue.
NeedARealBike is offline  
Old 08-18-15, 11:53 PM
  #49  
f4rrest
Farmer tan
 
f4rrest's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Burbank, CA
Posts: 7,986

Bikes: Allez, SuperSix Evo

Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2870 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 23 Posts
Originally Posted by NeedARealBike
lycra people
Love the phrase (even though I'm one)!
f4rrest is offline  
Old 08-19-15, 12:02 AM
  #50  
San Pedro
Senior Member
 
San Pedro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Kota, Aichi, Japan
Posts: 1,277

Bikes: 2011 Giant Seek R3, 2015 Specialized Allez Elite, 2017 Giant TCR Advanced 2

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 344 Post(s)
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Never been drafted, but there's been times when I would have liked to draft (15mph headwind and over). I don't see many people (none basically) going fast on my commute, so the situation hasn't come up, but I might like the challenge and to see how fast I may or may not be.
San Pedro is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.