TdF Winner Bike Discussion
09-21-20, 03:52 AM
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09-21-20, 06:37 AM
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Let’s not discuss doping in this thread please.
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Whatever they're doing in Slovenia is working, right?
Looks like the "youth movement" is still going strong. .
Per Velo News, more techniques, data, etc are now available to amateurs, coaches, riders, etc than ever before.
Sepp Kuss trained with the Gateway Harley-Davidson team in St. Louis.
At the same age, 10 years ago, probably not possible.
Technology is better, cheaper, and moving faster.
Information is better, cheaper, and moving faster.
Improvement is clearly available for those who want to work that hard.
I rode with a bunch of coached riders on Saturday. One of the coaches worked with Sepp Kuss.
These riders have been doing studio workouts, Zoom camps, distanced group rides, etc, since February.
They were working towards the Vino Fondo here that is generally in May, with 42/75/100 mile choices. Two Cat 4 climbs.
Last weekend was the virtual ride, but they chose to ride the routes together, as much as possible, with a volunteer pitch-in SAG.
Half had power meters, 95% were wearing HR monitors, almost all had very up-to-date bikes.
(One guy was on a Colnago Master, though!)
About 1/3 were women, 2/3 men, or at least that's what I identified based on body types.
Oddly, no one opted for the 100-miler, (except my lady and I). It's what they trained for....sorta.
It was clear from the start, though, that they were trained, fit, and informed.
One guy was near 70. Bob and I rode in the studio a few times; he was all business and pulling on the flats.
Compared to a similar bunch, probably 10 years ago, way better conditioned, equipped, and informed.
I spoke with the coach, and basically, riders today are able to access what they need to do.
If they do it, they're better than ever, across the age spectrum. On the Tour and everywhere else.
We only rode the first 20 with them, and split at the first rest stop.
Still, I got the impression that the 42-milers were getting ready to take off, the 75-milers were warmed up.
These were not all young people. Big difference from riding 10 and 20 years ago as far as who even shows up.
Our 100-mile route had to be altered, ended up with the cat 4 climbs at 84 and 96 miles.
The last 20-mile section was as hard as I've been on. Not fun.
Nice 105-mile day, 7,209' of climbing that I wouldn't volunteer for.
Yes, I rode steel.
No power meter, no HR monitor. No advantage, either. Ouch.
Based on the TdF, I imagine I'll see a couple new Colnago's in the next few months.
I'll have to get mine finished.
The next day, I did another century, all totally rank amateurs.
50% had power meters, 3/4 had HR monitors. I was still on steel.
One guy had a 60cm Project One with 12sp Campy and Garmin power meter pedals.
He had the lightest bike there. I've ridden a lot with him.
In a pace line, he sticks to his power meter readings, and boy, is he smooth.
He's used to want a C69 Colnago, but I think he's thinking of a V3R now, disc.
The merging of info tech, bike tech, and training/physiology is making us all better, if we want.
It's still hard work. Not a single bike I saw rides itself.
We do see some e-bikes on group rides, and they're great.
They enable "significant others" to be there and get it done.
Good on them and the bikes that make it possible.
Looks like the "youth movement" is still going strong. .
Per Velo News, more techniques, data, etc are now available to amateurs, coaches, riders, etc than ever before.
Sepp Kuss trained with the Gateway Harley-Davidson team in St. Louis.
At the same age, 10 years ago, probably not possible.
Technology is better, cheaper, and moving faster.
Information is better, cheaper, and moving faster.
Improvement is clearly available for those who want to work that hard.
I rode with a bunch of coached riders on Saturday. One of the coaches worked with Sepp Kuss.
These riders have been doing studio workouts, Zoom camps, distanced group rides, etc, since February.
They were working towards the Vino Fondo here that is generally in May, with 42/75/100 mile choices. Two Cat 4 climbs.
Last weekend was the virtual ride, but they chose to ride the routes together, as much as possible, with a volunteer pitch-in SAG.
Half had power meters, 95% were wearing HR monitors, almost all had very up-to-date bikes.
(One guy was on a Colnago Master, though!)
About 1/3 were women, 2/3 men, or at least that's what I identified based on body types.
Oddly, no one opted for the 100-miler, (except my lady and I). It's what they trained for....sorta.
It was clear from the start, though, that they were trained, fit, and informed.
One guy was near 70. Bob and I rode in the studio a few times; he was all business and pulling on the flats.
Compared to a similar bunch, probably 10 years ago, way better conditioned, equipped, and informed.
I spoke with the coach, and basically, riders today are able to access what they need to do.
If they do it, they're better than ever, across the age spectrum. On the Tour and everywhere else.
We only rode the first 20 with them, and split at the first rest stop.
Still, I got the impression that the 42-milers were getting ready to take off, the 75-milers were warmed up.
These were not all young people. Big difference from riding 10 and 20 years ago as far as who even shows up.
Our 100-mile route had to be altered, ended up with the cat 4 climbs at 84 and 96 miles.
The last 20-mile section was as hard as I've been on. Not fun.
Nice 105-mile day, 7,209' of climbing that I wouldn't volunteer for.
Yes, I rode steel.
No power meter, no HR monitor. No advantage, either. Ouch.
Based on the TdF, I imagine I'll see a couple new Colnago's in the next few months.
I'll have to get mine finished.
The next day, I did another century, all totally rank amateurs.
50% had power meters, 3/4 had HR monitors. I was still on steel.
One guy had a 60cm Project One with 12sp Campy and Garmin power meter pedals.
He had the lightest bike there. I've ridden a lot with him.
In a pace line, he sticks to his power meter readings, and boy, is he smooth.
He's used to want a C69 Colnago, but I think he's thinking of a V3R now, disc.
The merging of info tech, bike tech, and training/physiology is making us all better, if we want.
It's still hard work. Not a single bike I saw rides itself.
We do see some e-bikes on group rides, and they're great.
They enable "significant others" to be there and get it done.
Good on them and the bikes that make it possible.
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09-21-20, 01:02 PM
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I noticed that it was yellow, and it said "Colnago" on it, and that it had rim brakes. Anything else I don't know about.
09-21-20, 01:10 PM
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One of their sprinters was riding one, early on.
Before the yellow.... when only a few directors were worried about Pogacar….
