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Old 02-01-24, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
great pics from the wayback machine, thank you!

I do believe that a small detail such as QR orientation is not a differentiating characteristic for race victories

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I don't know... Remember 1989 TdF last stage?
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Originally Posted by smd4
What about all the guys that had the QR on the right side that didn't win races?
Are there any?

Honestly, I went through a whole stack of old racing pictures, and the examples I found all happened to be World Champions. Granted, they tend to appear more often in pictures than the losers, but still.
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Originally Posted by nomadmax
next up. Why are qr levers curved now instead of flat like they used to be?

Because a flat qr lever looks the same open or closed (@ 90 degrees). A curved qr lever has the curved part facing out when open, very easy to spot.
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Originally Posted by non-fixie
Are there any?
I would think that most of the racers that had their quick releases on the right didn't win the race.
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Originally Posted by repechage
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Nice to see those pics, non-fixie. I can't tell ya how much grief I've received over the years from folks telling me my front skewer lever is on the wrong side. "No, that's the right side," I reply.

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Originally Posted by smd4
What about all the guys that had the QR on the right side that didn't win races?
Yeah, nobody ever talks about them, why not??!
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Originally Posted by bulgie
Yeah, nobody ever talks about them, why not??!
The premise of this thread is "Right wheel QR: what wins races?" Do you agree with that? Or do you agree, maybe, that many more of the unwashed masses with QRs on the right lost races?

Do you think the position of the QR has any causation effect on winning or losing?
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Interesting that the 1984 Campagnolo catalog has them shown on the drive side: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...18_page_7.html

But the 1984 Victory and Triomphe catalogs show them on the non-drive side: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...he_scan_2.html and https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...ry_scan_2.html

Eddy had his on the non-drive side, so no further debate will be entered into:

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Eddy had his on the non-drive side, so no further debate will be entered into:
You are correct, the only answer is WWED
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Originally Posted by P!N20
Interesting that the 1984 Campagnolo catalog has them shown on the drive side: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...18_page_7.html

But the 1984 Victory and Triomphe catalogs show them on the non-drive side: https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...he_scan_2.html and https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site...ry_scan_2.html

Eddy had his on the non-drive side, so no further debate will be entered into:

I thought the canon was QR levers either parallel to fork/seatstay or totally horizontal, but he apparently doesn't care about that.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
I thought the canon was QR levers either parallel to fork/seatstay or totally horizontal, but he apparently doesn't care about that.
He probably doesn't even know. His mechanic is the one that doesn't care.
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Just eye-balling it, if the lever is on the DS then it would interfere with the RD cable housing during installation and removal.



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In my experience doing tech support, the emphasis was on speed of wheel change. It was easier for me to pull the RD back to clear the freewheel, lift and drop the rear of the bike onto the axle, pull back with both hands while aligning the lever and close the QR with my left hand grabbing a stay. Too much stuff to work around and get caught in on the drive side. Goal was 8 seconds or less from dropping a rear wheel to roll out. Would have preset QRs for Campy or aluminum dropouts so no adjusting during a change.
Fronts as long as the lever was angled upward it was good.
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Originally Posted by John D
Maybe habit going back to the Cambio Corsa derailleur witch used the QR on the gear side.
I don't think the Cambio Corsa was around long enough for anyone to get in habit of much of anything.

Originally Posted by nomadmax
Next up. Why are QR levers curved now instead of flat like they used to be?
As stated, that change was the result of the folks at the CPSC "fixing" everything they (incorrectly) thought was wrong with bike design. Reminds me of the old joke: What are the three most often told lies? "The check's in the mail," "I'll respect you in the morning," and "I've come from Washington to help you people."

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I thought the canon was QR levers either parallel to fork/seatstay or totally horizontal, but he apparently doesn't care about that.
Originally Posted by smd4
He probably doesn't even know. His mechanic is the one that doesn't care.
Eddy knew and cared about everything, and I do mean everything, on his bikes. The photo of Eddy is from the 1969 TdF. A few months later, he had his terrible crash on the track at Blois which messed up his pelvis and back for the rest of his career and maybe the rest of his life. After that crash, he was fanatical about futzing with his bikes, especially anything to do with his position, in a constant, largely futile search for a pain-free position on the bike. He was less fanatical before the Blois crash, but even then he was never exactly an "I'll ride whatever" kind of guy.

There's a great scene early on in "A Sunday in Hell" where Merckx can't find his Molteni team car in the race start area in time, so he borrows a wrench from the Brooklyn team car and quickly makes some minute adjustment to the seat height, tilt, or fore/aft. Sort of the cycling equivalent of "The Princess and the Pea."
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In a clip from La Course en Tete, Eddy pulls out a Campagnolo 5 mm Allen wrench and adjusts his saddle height up while racing.

the Best CPSC subversion I think was the bright idea to have the bike evaluated while the chain was in the big ring. Saved everyone so much anguish.
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