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Old 03-06-24, 01:50 PM
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TT (ridiculous) helmets soon to be banned

What do you guys think about these? Is the aero obsession going to far?

I am not surprised to read that the UCI is looking at this. Looks like they'll be new rules to the size and shape of helmets .

Cycling-UCI bans 'head sock', will review TT helmet design | SaltWire
The Latest Cycling Controversy Involves a Big Helmet (outsideonline.com)





Their next prototype has been spotted:

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Dark Helmet is not amused......

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The cycling public reaction seems to be "we don't want to look any uglier than we already are".

Come on, public. It's ugly and fast, or pretty and slow. Make up your minds!
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
The cycling public reaction seems to be "we don't want to look any uglier than we already are".

Come on, public. It's ugly and fast, or pretty and slow. Make up your minds!
The question must be asked... Is it safe in the event of a crash?
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Seems reasonable to control helmets too. Bikes and their components are supposed to be technology that is or will shortly be available to the consumers. So shouldn't helmets be something that a few of us might can afford? Sort of brings into question the skinsuits doesn't it? Or can consumers of the top tier bikes obtain and afford them too?
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The question must be asked... How many watts will it save me? 😁
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It has to be banned. The UCI banned fairings on bikes decades ago. These guys just figured out how to wear a fairing. I suspect they'll just edit the existing rule...

“A fairing shall be defined as the use or adaptation of a component of the bicycle, clothing or helmet, in such a
fashion that it encloses a moving part of the bicycle such as the wheels or the chainset, or _____.
Therefore it should be possible to pass a rigid card (like a credit card) between the fixed
structure and the moving part
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
The cycling public reaction seems to be "we don't want to look any uglier than we already are".

Come on, public. It's ugly and fast, or pretty and slow. Make up your minds!
I'm pretty slow, myself.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Seems reasonable to control helmets too. Bikes and their components are supposed to be technology that is or will shortly be available to the consumers. So shouldn't helmets be something that a few of us might can afford? Sort of brings into question the skinsuits doesn't it? Or can consumers of the top tier bikes obtain and afford them too?
Well, they regulate sock height, so this will probably get axed.
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I have some interest in the next prototype.
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They are so over the top I find it amazing they were allowed to start the race wearing them. My first words after the laughter were "it's a fairing". Plus there's no way those would considered "safe" as if a rider goes down the flared sides and open space underneath now become a potential catch hazard in themselves. That assumes the UCI is really about "rider safety" and it's not just lip service.

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They are so over the top I find it amazing they were allowed to start the race wearing them.
As I've said to officious officials, "Show me the rule."
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Originally Posted by eduskator

The bad news - a rider could have his head twisted off if this catches anything in a crash. The good news - it can be used as a wrench with excellent leverage to screw said head back in place.

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Their next prototype has been spotted:
Scale this up by 50%, lower it to cover the feet and now you have a helmet that protects the entire body, not just the brain. Far, far safer.
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Originally Posted by tempocyclist
The question must be asked... How many watts will it save me? 😁
I don't think it will save any watts. In fact, it will add a bunch of watts.......as in WTF are those things?
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
The bad news - a rider could have his head twisted off if this catches anything in a crash. The good news - it can be used as a wrench with excellent leverage to screw said head back in place.



Scale this up by 50%, lower it to cover the feet and now you have a helmet that protects the entire body, not just the brain. Far, far safer.
It's called a vehicle!
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I wonder how these would look in the VA Tech helmet ratings.

I am guessing not good.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Well, they regulate sock height, so this will probably get axed.
Too late, it’s already regulated. They use the patented sock-a-sizer. Butt yes, the socks can only be X cm high.
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UCI Cycling Regulations, Rules in Force, Part 2, Chapter 5, Section 3: No organization shall outfit team time trial entrants to appear as giant yellow phalluses.
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UCI Cycling Regulations, Rules in Force, Part 2, Chapter 5, Section 3: No organization shall outfit team time trial entrants to appear as giant yellow phalluses.
That won’t work, they will just make them a different colour.
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Yeah, I'm also of the opinion that it's a fairing. The part of the helmet that sticks out to deviate the air from the shoulders, that's too much.
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Originally Posted by eduskator
Yeah, I'm also of the opinion that it's a fairing. The part of the helmet that sticks out to deviate the air from the shoulders, that's too much.
Perhaps, but didn't that POC TT helmet from a few years back do the same thing? That thing's been around for a decade, apparently.

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Originally Posted by datlas
I wonder how these would look in the VA Tech helmet ratings.

I am guessing not good.
never have seen one of these newest in person, however, I’ve owned several generations of tt helmets. They all have been pretty much standard helmets on the inside, with a very thin plastic exterior in an aero shape. There’s no reason the underlying helmet structure in these should not function as a regular helmet.

As for the fairing exterior twisting your head around, the plastic exterior on mine has always been so thin, I think it would break off before it transferred much force, and you can always use MIPS to address any rotational forces.

Thus I really don’t see a safety issue. But they are stupid looking imho, and at some point start to act like a fairing.

i think the easy rule changes is that a helmet can only extend set distances from the riders head to the front back and side of the riders head, which would limit pushing this to an extreme.
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The issue is . . .we have to be able to see their faces to make sure they're human.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh

As for the fairing exterior twisting your head around, the plastic exterior on mine has always been so thin, I think it would break off before it transferred much force, and you can always use MIPS to address any rotational forces.

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MIPS can handle about 1cm of rotation -- basically the same amount as your scalp anyway. That won't solve for these monstrosities.

Wasn't the removal of rear spikes on helmets and going to rounder (POC was one of the early makers of these), largely based on making them easier to skid on pavement instead of grabbing.
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