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Old 12-07-20, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Yeah, I have also noted the dissociation between pad thickness and comfort.
This is why I wear unpadded gloves as well. Every time I've tried 'gel' gloves I find them very uncomfortable. I discussed this with my brother the Industrial Engineer with a specialty in Human Factors. Wearing thick gloves for some tasks leads people to grip more tightly for the tactile reinforcement and they end up tiring their hands more quickly.

Not that I'm saying that I'm gripping the saddle more tightly with my butt, of course.
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Old 12-07-20, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey

Not that I'm saying that I'm gripping the saddle more tightly with my butt, of course.
When I rode dirt bikes a near-crash would be described as having caused the rider to "put a hickey on the saddle".
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Old 12-07-20, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey

Not that I'm saying that I'm gripping the saddle more tightly with my butt, of course.
Of course, you're not. But, it if makes you feel good . . .
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I tried the tights over shorts (not bib tights) and the tights wouldn't stay up no matter what. I also have that problem with most leg warmers but I found some that have grippers on the outside and they stay up while riding but will fall if I walk around a bit. I guess my guads aren't massive enough.
This the internet. Hell yes they are.
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This is me a couple years ago.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
With the Dfour, early January. AG’s wont be ready until late December, so she’ll just get back in the saddle with some park rides for a bit until mine is ready.
I'll take first world problems for $100 Alex.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
It gets chilly to comfortably ride at 6,000 ft. Why bother going any higher?
Why not?
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Old 12-07-20, 06:11 PM
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Well yes, other than the one thing I'm quite fortunate. Why the highlights on the dates, though?
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Old 12-07-20, 06:14 PM
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While on the subject of winter wear, I have an issue with cold fingers. I have tried a few different cycling (and non-cycling) gloves. I do ok with them down to 32F/0C. Once subfreezing my fingers and/or thumb get too cold. Glove liners don’t help and just make fingers feel fat AND cold.

The best solution I have found is mittens. The good news is I find they keep me warm even on coldest days. Bad news is shifting, braking, and handling are less nimble. I should probably accept this but still would love to find gloves that give better “feel” yet keep fingers/thumbs warm on typical winter temps of say 20-30F.

Suggestions?
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Old 12-07-20, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
While on the subject of winter wear, I have an issue with cold fingers. I have tried a few different cycling (and non-cycling) gloves. I do ok with them down to 32F/0C. Once subfreezing my fingers and/or thumb get too cold. Glove liners don’t help and just make fingers feel fat AND cold.

The best solution I have found is mittens. The good news is I find they keep me warm even on coldest days. Bad news is shifting, braking, and handling are less nimble. I should probably accept this but still would love to find gloves that give better “feel” yet keep fingers/thumbs warm on typical winter temps of say 20-30F.

Suggestions?
Bar Mitts. For real, they're a revelation. Then I can just use my summer gloves.
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Old 12-07-20, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
Well yes, other than the one thing I'm quite fortunate. Why the highlights on the dates, though?
having to wait 3 or 4 weeks isn't that much of a hardship all things considered. I had to wait 4 months for my frame.

We are in an instant gratification society. I find myself being guilty of this as well. Technology has spoiled us. Even boomers like me.

The stuff we can do with a hand held device is mind blowing for those of us who grew up with rotary phones, party lines and 3 TV channels.
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Originally Posted by big john
Last couple rides on the mtb I got the "turkey warble" noise from the rear brake which had been quiet for 2+ years. I looked at the rotor, a big effort for me, and it looked very thin. At the lbs I picked up a new rotor and pads and swapped them today.
Just for giggles I got out the micrometer and measured the thickness of the new compared to the old. New rotor was .075 inch, or just under 2mm. Old rotor .030, or less than 1mm. Yikes.
Surprised you couldn't see through it!
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Originally Posted by datlas
While on the subject of winter wear, I have an issue with cold fingers. I have tried a few different cycling (and non-cycling) gloves. I do ok with them down to 32F/0C. Once subfreezing my fingers and/or thumb get too cold. Glove liners don’t help and just make fingers feel fat AND cold.

The best solution I have found is mittens. The good news is I find they keep me warm even on coldest days. Bad news is shifting, braking, and handling are less nimble. I should probably accept this but still would love to find gloves that give better “feel” yet keep fingers/thumbs warm on typical winter temps of say 20-30F.

Suggestions?
I have the self same problem and lobster gloves are about the best I can do. I have Goretex mountaineering shell mitts which are pretty good, but entail a dangerous loss of dexterity, as you note. Pogies are okay for commuting, but keep me on the hoods and that’s too tiring for long rides.

I want an alpha-adrenergic antagonist that’s specific for the small arteries of the extremities.

Oh, and flat bars solve all of the problems with mitts and pogies.

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Originally Posted by DougRNS
having to wait 3 or 4 weeks isn't that much of a hardship all things considered. I had to wait 4 months for my frame.

We are in an instant gratification society. I find myself being guilty of this as well. Technology has spoiled us. Even boomers like me.

The stuff we can do with a hand held device is mind blowing for those of us who grew up with rotary phones, party lines and 3 TV channels.
Oh, yes. I'm not so much bothered by the wait (I still have a deposit out on that steel frame which won't be started for a month or so, and I waited over three years for my heirloom knife to be made) as by the difficulty Shimano has put onto most of cycling. Waiting for a frame is one thing; waiting for chainrings is only slightly less frustrating that waiting for tires.
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Old 12-07-20, 07:24 PM
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Washington is not "tied" for the lead in the NFC East when they clearly lose the tiebreaker. They are number two.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Why not?
Possible frostbite.
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see, football doesn't hate you.
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MNF is over already??? The night has just begun.

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Originally Posted by dougrns
having to wait 3 or 4 weeks isn't that much of a hardship all things considered. I had to wait 4 months for my frame.

We are in an instant gratification society. I find myself being guilty of this as well. Technology has spoiled us. Even boomers like me.

The stuff we can do with a hand held device is mind blowing for those of us who grew up with rotary phones, party lines and 3 black and white tv channels.
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Old 12-07-20, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by datlas
While on the subject of winter wear, I have an issue with cold fingers. I have tried a few different cycling (and non-cycling) gloves. I do ok with them down to 32F/0C. Once subfreezing my fingers and/or thumb get too cold. Glove liners don’t help and just make fingers feel fat AND cold.

The best solution I have found is mittens. The good news is I find they keep me warm even on coldest days. Bad news is shifting, braking, and handling are less nimble. I should probably accept this but still would love to find gloves that give better “feel” yet keep fingers/thumbs warm on typical winter temps of say 20-30F.

Suggestions?

I have the pearl izumi elite and they work for me. Worn them in temps as low as 25 degrees and they were kept nice and toasty. I lost my light thermal gloves so I have even worn them in 50 degrees and my hands were fine. It caused them to sweat but it didn’t bother me. They are designed for 45 degrees and below if I remember correctly.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
MNF is over already??? The night has just begun.
It's been dark for three hours.
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It's been dark for three hours.
Monday Afternoon Football
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Took my bike to my LBS today. Plan was to drop it off for a couple of days and have the front derailer adjusted. I for the life of me could not get it to stop rubbing. I think I made it worse and crooked all at the same time. Anyways he threw it up on the stand and serviced it on the spot. Havnt had any complaints about my read derailer but he serviced that as well. My bike feels like a brand new bike now, I’m pretty impressed. I’m equally impressed by hot ****ty my tinkering skills are.

So the last couple of rides I have started to feel muscle soreness in my lower quads right above my knee. It seems like it started out of no where and I can’t figure out why. I feel like my seat might have slid down but the mark I put on the seat post hasn’t moved.

I tend to sit on the very very front of my seat, and I have been thinking about sliding my seat a 1 or 2 mm forward. Could the forward movement require me to raise the seat?
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That's one awesome piece of machinery right there. Love the fan blowing on the fins.

#aircooled

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