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Old 06-10-19, 04:32 AM
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Old 06-11-19, 06:02 PM
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Old 06-13-19, 10:04 PM
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Old 06-14-19, 03:26 PM
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Looks like Gaimon suffered a pretty serious crash on the track. Hope his recovery goes as well as possible.

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Old 06-14-19, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Looks like Gaimon suffered a pretty serious crash on the track. Hope his recovery goes as well as possible.

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Damn.

I wonder why he was riding mass start? Real talk, I would imagine that if he were on the long team for TP/IP, then he'd be focused on that and not risk injury in a mass start race. I really can't see a new-to-the-track pro roadie having the chops to hang in World Cup, Pan Am, or Olympic bunch races. So, why risk it?


I have zero detail on his crash but, maybe this also ties into my thing about how P/1 roadies maybe not having the experience to ride in P/1 track races immediately upon taking up the sport.

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Old 06-14-19, 04:03 PM
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@carleton

I think Gaimon has a bit of history in track though, right? T-town I think?
Maybe not pro rank trackie, but definitely not new to it
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Old 06-14-19, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Morelock View Post
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I think Gaimon has a bit of history in track though, right? T-town I think?
Maybe not pro rank trackie, but definitely not new to it
I recall not riding on the track for maybe a year and getting the willies while riding the first few laps and I was very squirrely when I returned to the faster races. I would simply let myself get shuffled to the rear and not contest any sprints or simply come off early. If I had the legs to hang up front, it would have been scary.

Even though I was experienced, it's generally a "Use it or Lose it" kind of thing when it comes to being smooth.
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Old 06-14-19, 04:21 PM
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^it's probably because you had forgotten how rough the track is at DLV
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^it's probably because you had forgotten how rough the track is at DLV
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Originally Posted by carleton View Post
Damn.

I wonder why he was riding mass start? Real talk, I would imagine that if he were on the long team for TP/IP, then he'd be focused on that and not risk injury in a mass start race. I really can't see a new-to-the-track pro roadie having the chops to hang in World Cup, Pan Am, or Olympic bunch races. So, why risk it?
Just speculating, but honestly I'd guess it was for content.
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Old 06-14-19, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by seau grateau View Post
Just speculating, but honestly I'd guess it was for content.
That makes sense, in a way. But, I wonder if he bit off more than he could chew. Sounds like he was racing in the UCI Pro races at TTown today (Friday).

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@carleton

I think Gaimon has a bit of history in track though, right? T-town I think?
Maybe not pro rank trackie, but definitely not new to it
A telling quote from his IG:


First team pursuit session in the books. Not bad but plenty of work to do. Racing this weekend, so hopefully one workout and a couple days to recover from a 10-day, solo cross country drive with a bunch of KOM attempts and video stuff and not enough sleep. Nice to work with cworth52 usacycling rakoooontz ericgalenyoung greggydaniel, and great to be back the_velodrome after a little ten year road racing vacation..
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First TP and maybe first (or near first) mass start race in 10 years? In an international pro race no less.

Now I'm really curious as to what happened. Did anyone see it?
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Old 06-22-19, 08:38 AM
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https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...alendar-428030

UCI is cutting the track world cup in half, moving it to a different season, and excluding some of the best teams in the world from competition as "part of its plan to develop track cycling." Smdh.

As part of its plan to develop track cycling, the World Cup series will be knocked down from six events to three from the 2020/21 season, and will be organised from July to September, rather than October to January, from 2021.
Read more at https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...QqwlELcOi9R.99
The World Cup will change its name to the UCI Track Cycling Nations’ Cup and will be reserved solely for national teams.
Read more at https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/r...QqwlELcOi9R.99
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Old 06-22-19, 11:12 AM
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The elimination of trade teams helps out the smaller countries when it comes to getting qualifying points. When a rider is part of a trade team, their points stay with them, and the national national federation gets to use those points. Countries that don't have riders on trade teams must shoulder the full brunt of fielding riders and getting qualifying points.

There are only so many points available, and a country can only qualify so many riders. Essentially what ends up happening is the powerhouse countries get to double dip on points despite already maxing out the riders they get to send. This leaves the smaller nations to scrap over an ever decreasing supply of points.
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Old 06-24-19, 10:59 AM
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First rule of UCI Track cycling - Don't ever try to win (or even worse, actually win) being smart and (sort of) unconventional.
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Originally Posted by taras0000 View Post
The elimination of trade teams helps out the smaller countries when it comes to getting qualifying points. When a rider is part of a trade team, their points stay with them, and the national national federation gets to use those points. Countries that don't have riders on trade teams must shoulder the full brunt of fielding riders and getting qualifying points.

There are only so many points available, and a country can only qualify so many riders. Essentially what ends up happening is the powerhouse countries get to double dip on points despite already maxing out the riders they get to send. This leaves the smaller nations to scrap over an ever decreasing supply of points.
Yeah, I kinda agree with this.

The UK was notorious for exploiting this. They would have like 2-3 trade teams in the field (like team KGF) as well as their National Team. They'd take all of the points and leave nothing for the others. The Dutch BEAT team as well. Between BEAT and their National Team, there were no more points available for Sprint events.

Don't get me wrong, the US has done it, too. But, that's why the system is flawed if the idea is to get representation for every country into the PanAms, EU Championships, and Olympics. If left to the old way, with just points, the Olympics would be stacked with riders from maybe 3-4 countries in all track events.
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