When do you say something?
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Had one today. Someone I was riding with complained that their Topeak bag was poorly designed and when you unzipped it stuff just fell out. I kindly pointed out that she had it installed upside down. Nonsense, she says. But the logo is upside down, I point out. And mine, with the plastic connector installed by Topeak is installed the right way. She won't budge, and will keep unzipping it, and watching stuff fall out.
Brutal.
Brutal.
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Why? If it's impacting my ability to concentrate on the task at hand, it's a liability. Addressing that is quite different than the manner of unsolicited advice that the OP is talking about. Talking about it doesn't need to be a big deal or combative, a simple, "man, that light is bright and I'm having a hard time seeing around it - does it have a lower setting?" is all it should take.
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I'll give a perfect example of how this get's you in trouble. For years I had to ride with my bars level to the saddle due to blown discs in my lower back. A couple times a year I'd have some "expert" tell me my bars were too high. See what I mean about assumptions?
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Some years ago, I was at the velodrome at a training session. There was this gal there telling Jenny Reed how she needed to do this and that. Jenny politely, but firmly the woman to focus on her won training and not worry about what she was doing. Good advice given from a world and Olympic medalist.
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I'm not talking to a fellow cyclist I don't know, unless it's some kind of safety concern, or to help out if he's got a flat, etc. While I think there should be a level of comradely among cyclists If he's doing something wrong like his saddle is too low, I'll just chuckle on the inside. I don't want to be the equivalent to these Grammar Nazis on the internet when I'm riding. Maybe if it's a group ride among people who are riding ya, point these things out before you head out. But just on a random ride no. I'm out there to enjoy myself not to coach people lol. They will eventually learn on their own or their buddies will correct them.
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Not everybody cares that they are doing something incorrect. They are having fun and it doesn’t hurt. A lot of people care only about that. Most people sing incorrectly. I don’t think that fact diminishes most people’s enjoyment of singing.
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"I notice you are using clips and straps. You could really improve your cycling with clipless pedals and cycling shoes."
"Ding, ding, ding, you've won the contest!"
"What contest is that?"
"You're the 1000th cyclist to tell me I need to go clipless."
"Do I win anything?"
"Yes, you're going to get the Cinzano treatment."
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I just yesterday received the unsolicited advice that I was breaking the RULE that must be obeyed that you must announce "ON YOUR LEFT" whenever passing another cyclist. My experience is that on weekends that will result in some percentage hearing left and moving in that direction. I try my best to get all my rides in on weekdays if possible.
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I developed a bad case of Plantar Fasciitis and had to get rid of my cycling shoes to get rid of it. I ride in clips/straps and running shoes. Every other cyclist that crosses my path has to tell me about it.
"I notice you are using clips and straps. You could really improve your cycling with clipless pedals and cycling shoes."
"Ding, ding, ding, you've won the contest!"
"What contest is that?"
"You're the 1000th cyclist to tell me I need to go clipless."
"Do I win anything?"
"Yes, you're going to get the Cinzano treatment."
"I notice you are using clips and straps. You could really improve your cycling with clipless pedals and cycling shoes."
"Ding, ding, ding, you've won the contest!"
"What contest is that?"
"You're the 1000th cyclist to tell me I need to go clipless."
"Do I win anything?"
"Yes, you're going to get the Cinzano treatment."
On the rare occasion that I run into a cyclist in a situation where a conversation might come up, I just tell them what the deal is.
dave
ps. I have a pair of really cheap canvas 'deck shoes' that weigh about 100 grams per shoe less than my cycling shoes plus cleat. I guess if I was a committed weight weenie I would learn to ride in those shoes
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One day I felt strange all day. Nothing really hurt or seemed to be wrong, but when I got home that evening and prepared to take a shower, I pull off my T- shirt and notice it was right-side out and forward.
That meant that I had been wearing it inside-out and backwards all day. Thing is, with all the people I met nobody mentioned it. I can't speak for how others received advice, but in this instance, I would have welcomed it.
I have the same philosophy about people giving me things I don't want or need. I accept them all and either pass it on, or dump it. I never tell them no because one day they might give me something I really do need. In case, you're wondering, its happened on more than one occasion.
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My wife, a few years ago, bought me a cycling jersey as a gift. It's a "world champion" jersey complete with the rainbow stripes. If I wear it would you say anything? Isn't that a cycling faux pas?
...just curious...
...just curious...
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Like wearing their shirts backwards or their pants saggy or their shoe laces untied?
One day I felt strange all day. Nothing really hurt or seemed to be wrong, but when I got home that evening and prepared to take a shower, I pull off my T- shirt and notice it was right-side out and forward.
That meant that I had been wearing it inside-out and backwards all day. Thing is, with all the people I met nobody mentioned it. I can't speak for how others received advice, but in this instance, I would have welcomed it.
I have the same philosophy about people giving me things I don't want or need. I accept them all and either pass it on, or dump it. I never tell them no because one day they might give me something I really do need. In case, you're wondering, its happened on more than one occasion.
One day I felt strange all day. Nothing really hurt or seemed to be wrong, but when I got home that evening and prepared to take a shower, I pull off my T- shirt and notice it was right-side out and forward.
That meant that I had been wearing it inside-out and backwards all day. Thing is, with all the people I met nobody mentioned it. I can't speak for how others received advice, but in this instance, I would have welcomed it.
I have the same philosophy about people giving me things I don't want or need. I accept them all and either pass it on, or dump it. I never tell them no because one day they might give me something I really do need. In case, you're wondering, its happened on more than one occasion.
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I like like your approach. You asked “Why?” Sometimes there is a legitimate reason for something. I will do high cadence work where I will try to ride just below the point I start bouncing for as long as I can and not become tense. In veritably, someone will ride up and tell me that I am bouncing and I should pedal smoother.
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I like like your approach. You asked “Why?” Sometimes there is a legitimate reason for something. I will do high cadence work where I will try to ride just below the point I start bouncing for as long as I can and not become tense. In veritably, someone will ride up and tell me that I am bouncing and I should pedal smoother.
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"Excuse me, sir? Your saddle height is a safety hazard - it's so far off that it just might distract me enough to crash. Please raise it an inch and a half. Thanks."
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Heck I wear Football and Soccer Jerseys too. I don't know why some people get all worked up over a stupid shirt.
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I never developed a taste for beer. I'd be standing in line at a convenience store and noticed (of the people that were buying beer) some would have a 6 pack and others would have 2 40s. I'd be standing there thinking what's the difference besides a few ounces? I'm thinking a 40 is going to get warm before you finish it. So, I ask a cashier why some buy 40s and the others go for a 6 pack. Her response was, "You don't have to share a 40. If you walk into a room with a 6 pack, everyone will want a beer." Mystery solved.
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-If you look like you could have won it, but didn't - faux pas.
-If it looks clearly as if you couldn't - whatever.
If you did in fact win it, but were somehow luck and not worthy - depends on you. My kid proudly wore one that he knew he completely deserved and doesn't another where he feels he just squeaked in.
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Well...
As you are asking here, this is not unsolicited. Here are the rules...
-If you look like you could have won it, but didn't - faux pas.
-If it looks clearly as if you couldn't - whatever.
If you did in fact win it, but were somehow luck and not worthy - depends on you. My kid proudly wore one that he knew he completely deserved and doesn't another where he feels he just squeaked in.
-If you look like you could have won it, but didn't - faux pas.
-If it looks clearly as if you couldn't - whatever.
If you did in fact win it, but were somehow luck and not worthy - depends on you. My kid proudly wore one that he knew he completely deserved and doesn't another where he feels he just squeaked in.
;-)
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I just remembered I did once offer unsolicited advice to another cyclist. I suggested he re-tie his shoelace. Those things can be a menace when they get caught in the chainring. He seemed grateful.
I'm gonna stop while I'm ahead and declare victory.
I'm gonna stop while I'm ahead and declare victory.
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