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True Confessions Time.. Ever Ride Blotto?

Old 01-06-21, 01:16 PM
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There is no DUI law in Idaho on a bicycle. Just saying. However you can get a public intoxication... I will not incriminate myself but I will state this...I ride mostly alone and at odd hours
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Old 01-06-21, 01:34 PM
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I wouldn't even know where to start. I had a mtb in college in Gunnison in the 80's that I rode everywhere, no more needs to be said about that. In more recent times, my best friend had his bachelor party in Palo Duro Canyon. We were all ripped and went for a night trail ride (we rented two cabins and stayed the night). Needles to say, there was some carnage since not everyone had lights. I broke a couple fingers.

Next, the same group of friends, whom we all raced mountain bikes together, made an annual trip to NM to ride the south boundary trail from Angel Fire to Taos. There's a little bar at the end of the trail on the outskirts of Taos that we always met up at the end and had a few beers some tequila and nachos post ride. There's another trail on the drive back to Angel Fire named the Elliot Barker trail that someone ALWAYS talked me into riding. The first few miles are all climbing and every single time I rode it after the bar, I threw up at the top. You would think I would learn, but someone always talked me into it. We always had DD's to shuttle the riders back to Angel Fire from Taos.

Many more, but those are the most noteworthy.
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One in five bicycle fatalities are legally drunk at the times of their death while one in three have some level of alcohol in their system.

Once had a couple of guys give me a hard time when they found out I've never worn a helmet. Half way through their lecture they started sharing stories about how their helmet "saved their life" when they crashed riding MTB's downhill while wacked.

People just don't make any sense sometimes. Like bragging about riding drunk on an open forum where some smarty pants lawyer can use it against them should they ever get hit by a "cager".
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Old 01-07-21, 12:26 PM
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Bicycle day
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Old 01-07-21, 01:43 PM
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I spent a night in Gunnison during a tour in ‘00, but I did not ride drunk.
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dont remember it.
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Old 01-07-21, 10:43 PM
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After the news yesterday, I drank half a bottle of Scotch and then jumped on my trusty steed and rode 25 miles and just about lost it when I down shifted too many cogs on my trainer. It could have been worse, it could have been a full bottle. <- All lies, but I felt the need to brag that I actually rode my trainer.
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Old 01-08-21, 11:27 AM
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Reminds me of the guy who rode to the store and bought some bottles, when he was about to ride back home he thought "I might crash and break the bottles, better to drink them now". He did, and it was a wise decision, because he crashed 3 times on his way home.
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Old 01-08-21, 11:52 AM
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Over the legal limit? Sure, it's not unusual. As blitzed as what's recounted in the OP? No.

A couple of the guys in my club are/were full-time brewers and, as a whole, we like our beer. Most of our rides end with food and drink... but mostly drink.
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Old 01-08-21, 12:25 PM
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When I was racing in my early-30s (15+ years ago), it was not totally uncommon for me to head out for my typical fast and furious Saturday group training ride still somewhat inebriated from late-night cocktails with my GF, having gotten only 4-5 hours of sleep. It usually burned out of my system by the time we got to the mid-ride sprint.

Totally fall-down hammered? Nope.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
One in five bicycle fatalities are legally drunk at the times of their death while one in three have some level of alcohol in their system.
Exactly.

You can't control the cars but you can control yourself (at least some of us can).

Thread doesn't seem quite as "funny" or cool now.
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Old 01-08-21, 03:47 PM
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Nope drinking is not my thing. All of it tastes bitter to me.
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Old 01-08-21, 03:50 PM
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Bar hopping by bike was a lot of fun BITD.

I’d still do it if the location and situation was right.

As far as stumbling blotto drunk? I don’t really do that anymore, on or off a bike. Have not for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
One in five bicycle fatalities are legally drunk at the times of their death while one in three have some level of alcohol in their system.
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Source?

I am a little skeptical because of all the bike accidents I know of resulting in serious injury from friends or through clubs, or through the grape vine, I am not aware that a single one was drinking. And the few deaths I am familiar with (just a handful) also did not.

Now as far as the car drivers involed in all this.... that is a different story.

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Originally Posted by Kapusta
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I am a little skeptical because of all the bike accidents I know of resulting in serious injury from friends or through clubs, or through the grape vine, I am not aware that a single one was drinking. And the few deaths I am familiar with (just a handful) also did not.

Now as far as the car drivers involed in all this.... that is a different story.
https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality...ail/bicyclists

Among bicyclists ages 16 and older who were killed in 2018, 20 percent had blood alcohol concentrations (BACs) at or above 0.08 percent”
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So many times I can't even count. I grew up in Sweden and with gas being $10/gallon, bicycles were our main form of transportation. We drank like fish and rode everywhere - never had a problem. Never crashed, never hit anyone, and was never run over by a car. There were bicycle paths everywhere and there was little to no need to venture out in traffic. Than again, it was the 80's and we didn't feel the need to wrap ourselves in cotton batting and bubble wrap just to walk to the mail box....
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I don't believe I've ever been blitzed. Two beers and I'm happy.

I rode home after two beers one night to find the family out, so I did my regular 20 mile after-work loop. That was and remains the fastest 20 miles I've ever ridden. I don't know if there's a causal relationship, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was.
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Old 01-09-21, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aplcr0331
https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality...ail/bicyclists

Among bicyclists ages 16 and older who were killed in 2018, 20 percent had blood alcohol concentrations (BACs) at or above 0.08 percent”
That was interesting and surprising to me. So I went to the NHTSA site that the data is pulled from

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812884

This appears to back up the claim that 20% were legally drunk in 2018. But not the prt about 1 in 3 (33%) involving drinking. According to that page, the number for 2018 is 26%.

Still these numbers surprised me. Then I found this, also from NHTSA:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/ways-get-home-safely

“About 26% of the bicyclists who died in 2017 had been drinking.”

“An estimated 32% of deadly pedestrian crashes in 2017 involved a person who was drunk and walking.”

So is walking when drunk more dangerous than riding a bike? This made little sense to me, but then it occurred to me.... are these causations or correlations? Are there some confounding factors?

Go back to the first site and look at WHEN cyclists get killed. The numbers killed at night is disproportionally high if one assumed far fewer people are cycling at those times. I think it is also reasonable to assume that night is when more people are drinking.

So is the issue that they are riding at night, or that more of them are drunk? Just the fact that you are riding at night is more dangerous for a whole list of reasons. Not only is visibility bad (for both the cyclists and drivers) but at night, more drivers are drunk.

I am guessing there is some correlation that also explains why walking after drinking is associated with a higher death rate than cycling after drinking.

My point is that in both cases, I think there are other confounding factors influencing those numbers.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Source?

I am a little skeptical because of all the bike accidents I know of resulting in serious injury from friends or through clubs, or through the grape vine, I am not aware that a single one was drinking. And the few deaths I am familiar with (just a handful) also did not.

Now as far as the car drivers involed in all this.... that is a different story.
Glad you asked,

Table 4 below. The numbers have thankfully gone down since the last time I looked. Now it is only 1 in 4 are legally drunk and 1 in 5 have some level of alcohol.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812507

The section right after the alcohol blurb about SUV's and light trucks being death machines for bicyclists and pedestrians is an eye opener as well. We should all be driving corvettes.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
Glad you asked,

Table 4 below. The numbers have thankfully gone down since the last time I looked. Now it is only 1 in 4 are legally drunk and 1 in 5 have some level of alcohol.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api...ication/812507

The section right after the alcohol blurb about SUV's and light trucks being death machines for bicyclists and pedestrians is an eye opener as well. We should all be driving corvettes.
Looks like you posted this just after my post above.

As I say above, the numbers suprprised me, but I would be careful of the conclusions drawn. I think there are confounding factors.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Looks like you posted this just after my post above.

As I say above, the numbers suprprised me, but I would be careful of the conclusions drawn. I think there are confounding factors.
It's really not that hard to figure out.

No matter how you got there the legal ramifications of being drunk when you die will complicate life for your next of kin. This is true no matter who was at fault in the accident.
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Never rode after drinking, but I quit drinking over 6 years ago and started seriously cycling again 3 years ago. Even when I was cycling in the late 90s and early 2000s I never rode after drinking.
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Originally Posted by Pop N Wood
It's really not that hard to figure out.

No matter how you got there the legal ramifications of being drunk when you die will complicate life for your next of kin. This is true no matter who was at fault in the accident.
Well that is an entirely different point than the one I was addressing.

But since you bring up the legal ramification of dying while drunk, do please explain what you are talking about.

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