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I find I have to be very careful with dried fruit --it's very easy to eat a lot and they are calorie dense.
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There's a grain (no pun) of truth in this-- there was a move among mainstream nutritionists and the govt. to promote a diet high in complex carbs and very low fat, and it turned out to be disastrously bad advice for most people. This has now created a backlash where people are vilifying any carb intake, which is probably at least as bad advice.
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Some pyramids are less enduring than others: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...oodbye-pyramid
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Australia is here.
https://www.eatforhealth.gov.au/guid...healthy-eating
I notice Oz has beer in the sidebar underneath the main plate. I thought it would have been more prominent.
Both Canada and Australia have too many grains and lack saturated fat which is protective for your heart.
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You need to stop spreading misinformation.
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Juicing makes excess fruit intake pretty easy, and french fries are vegetables too, so I probably would drop the qualifiers.
When they were researching props for Mad Men, they realized they had to scale down almost all of the foods, especially pastries and breads. They had to make little bagels and danish, for example, because pretty much no bakeries do so anymore.
When I was losing weight by controlling calorie intake only, I pretty much never ate out because the servings of carbs were always so absurd. If I'm eating with someone who orders fries, I have noticed that they have turned into some kind of loss leader with a really low price for a huge portion. I think 5Guys started this, and it seems to be becoming a universal. I honestly can't think of a worse food to binge on.
BTW, I don't make pasta or rice at home because I find I have no limits on how much I can eat. Refined (white) starches really aren't metabolized significantly slower than sugar. The false belief that they were was one of the fallacies that led to the high carb/low fat disaster.
When they were researching props for Mad Men, they realized they had to scale down almost all of the foods, especially pastries and breads. They had to make little bagels and danish, for example, because pretty much no bakeries do so anymore.
When I was losing weight by controlling calorie intake only, I pretty much never ate out because the servings of carbs were always so absurd. If I'm eating with someone who orders fries, I have noticed that they have turned into some kind of loss leader with a really low price for a huge portion. I think 5Guys started this, and it seems to be becoming a universal. I honestly can't think of a worse food to binge on.
BTW, I don't make pasta or rice at home because I find I have no limits on how much I can eat. Refined (white) starches really aren't metabolized significantly slower than sugar. The false belief that they were was one of the fallacies that led to the high carb/low fat disaster.
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- “Above 40% carb we see a steep increase in CHD risk. Fats are protective.”
- “Contrary to common belief the current recommendation to reduce saturated fat has no scientific basis.”
- “You must have heard of the book Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz. She shook up the nutrition world. But she got it right.”
Dr Malhotra says: “Recent prospective cohort studies have not supported any significant association between saturated fat intake and cardiovascular risk. Instead, saturated fat has been found to be protective”.Dr Malhotra also points out that, “Despite the common belief that high cholesterol is a significant risk factor for coronary artery disease, several independent population studies in healthy adults have shown that low total cholesterol is associated with cardiovascular and non-cardiac mortality, indicating that high total cholesterol is not a risk factor in a healthy population”.As a good cardiologist, he adds, “The government’s obsession with levels of total cholesterol, which has led to the overmedication of millions of people with statins, has diverted our attention from the more egregious risk factor of atherogenic dyslipidaemia”.
Dr Malhotra refreshingly highlights that avoidance of sugar is key to the prevention of metabolic syndrome, which he describes as, “The cluster of hypertension, dysglycaemia, raised triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, and increased waist circumference”. He clearly advocates the use of the Mediterranean diet, which he suggests is three times more powerful than taking a statin.
Dr Malhotra refreshingly highlights that avoidance of sugar is key to the prevention of metabolic syndrome, which he describes as, “The cluster of hypertension, dysglycaemia, raised triglycerides, low HDL cholesterol, and increased waist circumference”. He clearly advocates the use of the Mediterranean diet, which he suggests is three times more powerful than taking a statin.
Really the topic is too complex to discuss here, but I urge people to educate themselves. Your life may depend on it.
As to losing weight by cycling...ride your bike lots...don't eat carbs or sugar..it sounds easy but its hard in real life.
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In a year or two, she/he will realise and will come round to a more balanced way of eating. Most people don't stick with keto for very long.
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I wish people would read up on nutrition please before giving advice
A suggested read is "Racing Weight" by Matt Fitzgerald.
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Sorry but its not misinformation. The old idea promoted by the dietary guidelines that fat is bad, has been superseded by data that shows the opposite.
https://www.naturalhealthnews.uk/art...dical-journal/
Really the topic is too complex to discuss here, but I urge people to educate themselves. Your life may depend on it.
As to losing weight by cycling...ride your bike lots...don't eat carbs or sugar..it sounds easy but its hard in real life.
- “Above 40% carb we see a steep increase in CHD risk. Fats are protective.”
- “Contrary to common belief the current recommendation to reduce saturated fat has no scientific basis.”
- “You must have heard of the book Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz. She shook up the nutrition world. But she got it right.”
https://www.naturalhealthnews.uk/art...dical-journal/
Really the topic is too complex to discuss here, but I urge people to educate themselves. Your life may depend on it.
As to losing weight by cycling...ride your bike lots...don't eat carbs or sugar..it sounds easy but its hard in real life.
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How about one more approach going on the pile?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/o...-diabetes.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/o...-diabetes.html
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So funny to me to see all the expert opinions and the ever changing diet recommendations as the science of nutrition evolves. "Don' t eat too much fruit, it's stuffed with sugar".
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I'm doing pretty well so far, mostly just logging everything I eat, and ensuring I burn more than I take in. I have a thread on it.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
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It's true. The conventional wisdom is slow to change, but change it does. People should make up their own minds, we all have access to the latest research if we choose to engage with it.
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This is a topic for a bigger discussion, but I don't think "on average" really means anything when it comes to diet.
Lots of people take in enormous amounts of calories from fruit, especially in liquid form. Even in whole form, it's very easy for some of us, myself included, to over-indulge in items like cherries and grapes.
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How about one more approach going on the pile?
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/o...-diabetes.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/02/o...-diabetes.html
The research into type 2 diabetes in India is pointing towards epigenetic factors playing a big role as well --the nutritional status of your grandmother as she was gestating your mother may actually play a big role in determining your metabolism!
It's why I resorted to trial and error in losing my weight. I just found that much of stuff I was told worked for other people was simply useless for me.
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I'm doing pretty well so far, mostly just logging everything I eat, and ensuring I burn more than I take in. I have a thread on it.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
That's great! You and I are probably really good examples of how one thing that works for one person doesn't work for another. I couldn't just cut back on quantity, I had to cut out a bunch of stuff I really can't eat responsibly on a regular basis. Exhibit A: pizza.
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I'm doing pretty well so far, mostly just logging everything I eat, and ensuring I burn more than I take in. I have a thread on it.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
I chose not to pursue any of the fad or specialty diets, preferring to eat normally without over-doing it like I used to, and ramping up my activity to help.
Over 75 lbs down now, and now within the factory rider weight limit on all but one of my bikes.
Congratulations! I lost just shy of 50 pounds 3 years ago doing exactly that - and I've kept my weight down since then by maintaining an awareness of the amount of calories I consume vs burning. I'm now at an ideal weight and just maintain.
I find it easily sustainable and I'm not denying myself any foods that I want, I just have to factor in the calorie hit if I'm "splurging" on a night out or whatever.
And, for what it's worth, I eat a relative high carb diet. I get that some people find it easier to get into a calorie deficit by reducing carbs, but there's nothing magic about reducing carb consumption: if you eat more than you burn you're gaining weight regardless of macros.
Likewise if you burn more than you consume you'll lose. This is simply physics, no need to make it more complicated than that.
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This is a topic for a bigger discussion, but I don't think "on average" really means anything when it comes to diet.
Lots of people take in enormous amounts of calories from fruit, especially in liquid form. Even in whole form, it's very easy for some of us, myself included, to over-indulge in items like cherries and grapes.
Lots of people take in enormous amounts of calories from fruit, especially in liquid form. Even in whole form, it's very easy for some of us, myself included, to over-indulge in items like cherries and grapes.