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Old 10-17-23, 03:58 PM
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Dang! All these goofy bikes in Oklahoma? Who knew?
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Old 10-20-23, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick_D
Umbrella a nice touch--watch out for sidewinds.
That's a dicycle.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
I don't know; that is a lot of mass for just a pair of brakes.
You do realize that's nothing, right?



A few stats for the “Oriten:”

Built in 1896
23 feet long
305 pounds
Required two miles to get started
20 mph to remain upright
Fixed gear; no brakes
45 mph cruising speed

More info: July 1992 Bicycle Guide

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Originally Posted by smd4
You do realize that's nothing, right?



A few stats for the “Oriten:”

Built in 1896
23 feet long
305 pounds
Required two miles to get started
20 mph to remain upright
Fixed gear; no brakes
45 mph cruising speed

More info: July 1992 Bicycle Guide
Nah... NOTHING is "Fixed gear; no brakes"
Love how the chainrings get steadily bigger as you go back.
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Old 10-21-23, 06:16 PM
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Apparently history is silent on what happened before you got that thing up to 20 mph!

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Originally Posted by retswerb
Nah... NOTHING is "Fixed gear; no brakes"
Most cyclists of the day actually removed the brakes from their bikes because they were considered “feminine.”

“Braking” this thing involved putting the biggest, heaviest rider at the back. The “brakeman” would just start resisting the pedals with all his weight while the guy steering tried to stay on course.

The subtitle of the article is “truly unsafe at any speed.”
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This is a bicycle wearing a ghillie suit.
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Originally Posted by smd4
You do realize that's nothing, right?

note the graduated chainring counts going from smaller on the front to larger on the back.

Wonder how that worked out

/markp
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
note the graduated chainring counts going from smaller on the front to larger on the back.
The guys are bigger on the front to smaller on the back.

So the big front guy is pedaling twice as fast as the little back guy, while also trying to steer.
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Old 10-22-23, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_P
The guys are bigger on the front to smaller on the back.

So the big front guy is pedaling twice as fast as the little back guy, while also trying to steer.
I don't think so, the cranks are all in phase. I think I understand how they did this.

Each crank has two rings. the front rider's ring (lets say 42) turns a synchronizing ring of the same size (42) on the crank immediately behind it, and then that crank has a (lets say) 48t ring that turns a 48t ring on the crank immediately behind it, and then that crank has a 52t ring that turns a 52 on the crank behind that, which has a 56t ring, and so on.

does that make sense ?

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Old 10-22-23, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
I recognized and considered that before I made my comment above. 4 people + 4 bags still add up to a lot of weight for a single pair of brakes.
Maybe they live where it is flat.
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Old 10-22-23, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_P
So the big front guy is pedaling twice as fast as the little back guy, while also trying to steer.
You don’t seem to realize they are all pedaling at the same rate.
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Originally Posted by smd4
You don’t seem to realize they are all pedaling at the same rate.
Exactly right smd4

here's a bike I'm going to restore. I think I'm going all 753 tubing, full Super Record, with Martano rims and Clement Setas. What do you think ?

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Old 10-22-23, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by smd4
You don’t seem to realize they are all pedaling at the same rate.
Putting aside what mpetry912 brought up since I haven't worked it out...

How can they be pedaling at the same rate when they each have different gearing ?
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Old 10-22-23, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_P
Putting aside what mpetry912 brought up since I haven't worked it out...

How can they be pedaling at the same rate when they each have different gearing ?
Each crank (except the front one) has 2 chainrings: the drive ring, which is visible, and the driven ring which is hidden and is the same size as the drive ring of the crank ahead of it.
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Old 10-22-23, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by One Wheel
Each crank (except the front one) has 2 chainrings: the drive ring, which is visible, and the driven ring which is hidden and is the same size as the drive ring of the crank ahead of it.
Yup. 'Zactly right.

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Old 10-22-23, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_P
How can they be pedaling at the same rate when they each have different gearing ?
Because there is only one crank turning the wheel.
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Anyone who has tried a tandem ... you don't have to pedal at the same rate ... the driver or stoker can do all the pedaling and the other can try to fight .... but it is like braking on a brakeless fixie. You have to fight to push back on the pedals ... or you can just hold your feet up and let the other guy do all the work.
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How did the frame or the wheels not break? Does the captain have a whistle in his mouth?
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Old 10-23-23, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by polyrhythmia
How did the frame or the wheels not break? Does the captain have a whistle in his mouth?
I have no idea! Thing was definitely overbuilt, but apparently was pretty flexy side-to-side.

The article says it was on display at the Henry Ford museum. I wonder if it still is?
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
note the graduated chainring counts going from smaller on the front to larger on the back.

Wonder how that worked out

/markp
It's setup so that they can get up to speed without a herculean effort of any single rider. The final gear ratio is the rearmost chainring/cog, and everyone else just progressively contributes to the work load.

It could be phased by 1 to 1 progressive as posted above. Except for the rearmost guy, as evidenced by the photo. He marches to the beat of a different drum if you will.
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat
It's setup so that they can get up to speed without a herculean effort of any single rider. The final gear ratio is the rearmost chainring/cog, and everyone else just progressively contributes to the work load.
I'm pretty sure that, as described above, the gear ratios of each crank to the others is 1:1. The best explanation I have for increasing chainring sizes, rather than just a larger last chainring, is that as you go back each chainring has more torque on it, so larger chainrings make it less likely to shear off teeth. Maybe the rear cog was built from a higher quality material?
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