12 Speed Wireless - SRAM AXS
02-06-19, 10:09 AM
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12 Speed Wireless - SRAM AXS
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02-06-19, 10:34 AM
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Is all this new tech. and the ridiculous price tags that come with it going to be responsible for driving costs up on every other product these companies produce ? Whenever Shimano comes out with their version of this will an Ultegra mechanical groupset go up in price as well ? Their selling point on lower end items can then be " well they went up in price a few hundred bucks, but at least its still $1,000 less than this option".
02-06-19, 10:47 AM
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I get the impression the take rate for DI2 has been a lot lower on the MTB side. Road is where it’s at
02-06-19, 11:06 AM
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The front derailleur battery limited tire width with the 11 speed version. About 35 mm was max. I'd be interested in the road version for gravel if this was addressed.
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02-06-19, 11:59 AM
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I'd be interested in going back to 9 speed... weaker wheels, weaker chains, more expensive groups - what's not to love about "progress?"
02-06-19, 01:19 PM
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02-06-19, 02:02 PM
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I seem to remember GravelCyclist asking SRAM about this a while back, they said they weren't (read: classic "not a bug but a feature")
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38 to 40 is as wide as you can go with etap.
I've not only read it but, observed it first hand.
New gravel bikes are able to accommodate up 45 and sometimes wider. Why would anyone want to limit the versatility of their bike with etap?
FYI - I've got etap on my road bike and would love it on my gravel bike.
I've not only read it but, observed it first hand.
New gravel bikes are able to accommodate up 45 and sometimes wider. Why would anyone want to limit the versatility of their bike with etap?
FYI - I've got etap on my road bike and would love it on my gravel bike.
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What is the point of adding the complexity of wireless when the two components involved (the shifter and the RD) are bolted in fixed positions to the same frame and just 3 feet apart from each other?
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Strikes me as physically less complex/demanding -- a good application of 'wireless' technology?
But what do I know? I'm still '10 spd' mechanical shifting. Just a curious onlooker.
02-06-19, 07:43 PM
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I hate to admit it but the new ScRAM cranks look nice at least for the road stuff and the oil slick chains look shaweet. Also being able to run MTB and Road together with a wireless dropper post could make quite the GravGrav Wet Dream.
I don't know that I want to build a bike with ScRAM but this is a compelling argument in that direction.
I don't know that I want to build a bike with ScRAM but this is a compelling argument in that direction.
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No wires to run; easily retro-fitted to any bike -- external/internal cable routing, whatever. Batteries on the mechanism(s), not requiring central placement somewhere else (e.g. in seat tube/post).
Strikes me as physically less complex/demanding -- a good application of 'wireless' technology?
But what do I know? I'm still '10 spd' mechanical shifting. Just a curious onlooker.
Strikes me as physically less complex/demanding -- a good application of 'wireless' technology?
But what do I know? I'm still '10 spd' mechanical shifting. Just a curious onlooker.
My Seven Axiom Ti was pre-Di2...and as nice a frame as it is, and as much as it would be nice to electronic shifting it....I'm not spending $3,000-$4,000USD just for that.
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No wires to run; easily retro-fitted to any bike -- external/internal cable routing, whatever. Batteries on the mechanism(s), not requiring central placement somewhere else (e.g. in seat tube/post).
Strikes me as physically less complex/demanding -- a good application of 'wireless' technology?
But what do I know? I'm still '10 spd' mechanical shifting. Just a curious onlooker.
Strikes me as physically less complex/demanding -- a good application of 'wireless' technology?
But what do I know? I'm still '10 spd' mechanical shifting. Just a curious onlooker.
As far as the battery, you could still have the batteries on the mechs if you want. Actually, you could jhave just one batter housed in either the RD or shifter. It does not need to be central. One less battery seems like an advantage to me.
02-06-19, 09:38 PM
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I can’t think of any bike configuration that would not be compatible with a wire. Just run it where the cables went or even somewhere else if you want.
As far as the battery, you could still have the batteries on the mechs if you want. Actually, you could jhave just one batter housed in either the RD or shifter. It does not need to be central. One less battery seems like an advantage to me.
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