Latest find! Schwinn World Voyageur!
09-09-13, 06:54 PM
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That would be really odd as best of my knowledge Schwinn never used Suntour dropouts or components, Schwinn made, Huret, Campy and Shimano but never Suntour.
09-09-13, 07:06 PM
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I was thinking how odd it was too, but but it seems at least a few people have a 1973 Schwinn WVs with SunTour dropouts. I don't know, maybe they're just mistaken.
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09-09-13, 07:14 PM
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I'm sure it does. You might have missed this:
...Earlier ones ('72 frame/fork build dates) used SunTour dropouts/fork ends, while later ones ('73+ build dates) used Shimano. Note also that the frame dropouts and fork ends won't necessarily match on a given bike since the frames and forks were produced independently and often at greatly separate times. For example I have an original '73 WV that has an Oct. '73 frame (Shimano dropouts) and an Aug. '72 fork (SunTour ends).
09-09-13, 07:14 PM
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09-09-13, 07:20 PM
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No, I didn't miss it, I'm talking about a 73 Schwinn WV with rear SunTour dropouts AND front SunTour fork ends.... ya know what? **** all that bull****! Really? as long as its a 1973 Schwinn WV I'd like to see it as it is truly THE FIRST Schwinn made in Japan by Panasonic, who were/are without a doubt THE BEST bike builders in Japan!
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just found..plus had the orange one for 20 years
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OMG! Sexy beast both! 
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09-09-13, 08:58 PM
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Ok Im wrong Schwinn used Suntour for Severals years during the 70's.
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Note that Panasonic also made the lower-end World Traveler for Schwinn at the same time as the World Voyageur. Thus if you wanted to be accurate you would say that the World Voyageur was "one of the first two" bikes made in Japan by Panasonic and imported for Schwinn. Production for both of those bikes started in '72 even though they were considered '73 models.
and now I'll say this again...ya know what? **** all that bull****! Really, as long as its a 1973 Schwinn WV I'd like to see it as it is truly (along with the lower end World Traveler) THE FIRST Schwinns made in Japan by Panasonic, who were/are without a doubt THE BEST bike builders in Japan! So please keep 'em coming! (pics of the 1973 WV that is)
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09-10-13, 05:47 AM
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Did you get enough free research for your CL ad yet?
I stand corrected. I'll go ahead and say this: Apparently Panasonic also made a lower end "World Traveler" for Schwinn at the same time as the World Voyageur. (which still is the higher end of the two) I think the Schwinn Paramount was the only bike that year that was higher up in the Schwinn hierarchy. (why did I go there!) To be accurate I'll say the World Voyageur was "one of the first two" bikes made in Japan by Panasonic and imported for Schwinn. (there...Wooo!) As mentioned by Metacortex the production for both of those bikes started in '72 even though they were considered '73 models. (just like cars) This being said the World Voyageur still is the sought after model of 1973, besides the Paramount of course. (why did I go there again!) but please, anyone that's after the built by Panasonic for Schwinn in 72 even though they were considered '73 models World Traveler please feel free to visit barns and basements in your area.
and now I'll say this again...ya know what? **** all that bull****! Really, as long as its a 1973 Schwinn WV I'd like to see it as it is truly (along with the lower end World Traveler) THE FIRST Schwinns made in Japan by Panasonic, who were/are without a doubt THE BEST bike builders in Japan! So please keep 'em coming! (pics of the 1973 WV that is)
and now I'll say this again...ya know what? **** all that bull****! Really, as long as its a 1973 Schwinn WV I'd like to see it as it is truly (along with the lower end World Traveler) THE FIRST Schwinns made in Japan by Panasonic, who were/are without a doubt THE BEST bike builders in Japan! So please keep 'em coming! (pics of the 1973 WV that is)
09-10-13, 05:53 AM
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09-10-13, 08:08 AM
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Technically it was a 4-year bike, it continued to be sold though '76 as the Voyageur II. The VII was the same bike as the WV except for different colors, decals and a 25" frame was available. And of course a much higher price.
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09-10-13, 09:51 AM
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Agreed! "Technically" was the wrong term, I should have used "essentially" instead. After the '73 World bikes experiment proved successful, by changing the name from the World Voyageur to the "Schwinn Approved" Voyageur II, Schwinn was able to continue selling essentially the same bike at a higher price point from '74 through '76 alongside the then-new (and lower priced) Panasonic made Le Tour.
09-10-13, 10:03 AM
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09-10-13, 10:24 AM
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Here's mine with a 700c wheelset. $20 if you can find another 25" one.
09-10-13, 10:31 AM
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Right. But, it wouldn't be original. Somehow, I have the only 25" World Voyageur anyone has ever seen. I bought it from the son of the original owner, who I believe worked for Schwinn. So, my assumption is he wanted the paint and decals of the WV and they made him one from a blank, 25" Voyageur II frame.
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09-10-13, 11:21 AM
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I think you are right about your 25" bike possibly starting as a factory ordered frame. I have a couple of '70s Schwinn dealer parts catalogs and the WV and VII frames have the same part number for a given size and can be ordered with different colors and I assume decals since it states "specify color and model when ordering". The '74 catalog even lists Sunset Orange as an available color on those specific frames and forks even though the lighter Kool Orange was the only orange used on the WV. Your 25" model does look like the darker Sunset Orange to me, and this would seem to explain that possibility.
When looking through these catalogs on one hand I'm surprised that we don't see more semi-custom bikes originally built up from then-new frames. On the other hand I'm guessing that's because it simply wasn't economical to do so. None of the catalogs I have included price lists, but I'd bet that the cost of ordering a factory painted frame and fork alone was close to the cost of a complete bike.
When looking through these catalogs on one hand I'm surprised that we don't see more semi-custom bikes originally built up from then-new frames. On the other hand I'm guessing that's because it simply wasn't economical to do so. None of the catalogs I have included price lists, but I'd bet that the cost of ordering a factory painted frame and fork alone was close to the cost of a complete bike.
09-10-13, 12:17 PM
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Correct. My bike does not have the same hue as the other World Voyageurs I've seen.
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Right. But, it wouldn't be original. Somehow, I have the only 25" World Voyageur anyone has ever seen. I bought it from the son of the original owner, who I believe worked for Schwinn. So, my assumption is he wanted the paint and decals of the WV and they made him one from a blank, 25" Voyageur II frame.
10-05-14, 10:44 PM
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You sending cash-in-mail or what? No personal checks. please.
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10-06-14, 12:12 AM
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His money is safe. The bike in that appears to be a 1980-'81 Voyageur 11.8 in full chrome.
10-12-14, 08:39 AM
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His money is safe. The bike in that appears to be a 1980-'81 Voyageur 11.8 in full chrome.
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