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Old 04-06-19, 11:32 AM
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Old 04-11-19, 07:42 AM
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this ^^^
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They just busted the scammers with the braces for Medicare fraud the other day, that was something mentioned by the author as an example of robocalls.
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I wish I had the time I spent explaining to Medicare patients they can't get Medicare to pay for everything back, especially when they ask me about scams like that.
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Old 04-12-19, 10:09 AM
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Aaannnnddd just after I posted that I got another robocall...
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About the best thing I have found to combat the prevalence of "robo" calls is to never answer the phone unless I know who it's from, and to "white list" numbers that I know for a fact are who they say they are.

Takes a bit of doing, and a chance in perspective with how one views phone calls in our lives.

Can't see doing that method with a business line. But with a personal phone and a relatively small set of known friends and contacts, it's fairly effective.

As for the "robo" generated calls that leave a message about topic X, only to change it to topic Y if I do end up calling back to find out what the deal is ... well, those are hard to identify beforehand. But I can't recall the last one of those I responded to like that, so IMO it's a worthwhile change in perspective and behavior. Has resulted in vastly fewer calls and messages on my end that are "robo" in nature.
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Old 04-12-19, 06:17 PM
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i got 26 robocalls in three days, and my mom got deeply offended when i was mean to one. I am not going back to college dont need car insurance, and do not want to take a cruise.
and when she told me not to answer the phone it I have spent 3 days straight job hunting. I have a friend with an upcoming court date. and 3 dr's and pharmacy's I would like to hear from.
so picking up my phone seems like the smart option
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Old 04-15-19, 11:40 AM
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I fired Mr Numbers after another Social Security scam got through to me. I'm trying out YouMail based on the article linked above. I'll post an update in a week or so.... and if you don't see an update, that'd be a sign that YouMail worked and I don't think about robocalling scams any more.
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And now the real irony.

The free robocall blocking software from Verizon, only works on their latest phones. Thus, VZ is simply part of the scam... by forcing users to upgrade. It's a software fix folks... not a hardware issue.
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Old 04-19-19, 05:20 AM
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Shades of the "V-Chip", which was supposed to end the scourge of children watching inappropriate adult TV programs, for a thousand generations, but instead became a marketing ploy to sell new TV's.

Maybe Verizon can come up with some ad-blocking software that blocks competitor's ads, and replaces them with their own.
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Old 04-19-19, 07:00 AM
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Isn't it amazing how tech can futher complicate our lives... there is a saying in software... about the "next release..." "Once you kill a bug, all the relatives come to the funeral."
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I fired Mr Numbers after another Social Security scam got through to me. I'm trying out YouMail based on the article linked above. I'll post an update in a week or so.... and if you don't see an update, that'd be a sign that YouMail worked and I don't think about robocalling scams any more.
I'm getting great results with YouMail. They push hard to get you to spend $10/month for their premium product. That's less annoying than the robocalls ... at least for me.
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Old 04-19-19, 07:12 AM
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There's no money in writing simple programs that only do what they're supposed to do in the most efficient way possible and don't crash. You'll work yourself right out of a job if you do that.

Apparently, the way you become successful writing software, is to write programs that do the exact opposite, and make your money trying to fix the problems your bad programming created.
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Old 04-19-19, 07:46 AM
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Any politician who eliminated Daylight Saving Time, and began vigorous enforcement of the Do Not Call List, could win re-election in a landslide, even if they did absolutely nothing else.
Most people who complain about daylight savings time are actually complaining about "standard time".

Although perhaps one could argue that Daylight Savings time encourages lazy scheduling of one's day.

Call Blocking or anti spamming? Perhaps??

In a sense, robo-calls would die off if people would just choose not to respond to them... ever....

In fact, there seem to be more calls coming in from South Asia than pure computer systems, as people are much more responsive to human callers.
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Old 04-19-19, 07:54 AM
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I just wish they would quit screwing with the time twice a year, I don't care much whether it's referred to as "standard time" or "daylight saving time". Takes me weeks to adjust to the change.

Pick some consistent 24 hour cycle AND STICK WITH IT. That's all I ask.

Re Asian robo callers, if they were selling drugs or child porn, I can guarantee they'd be shut down tomorrow. There's just no will to do anything about it, because politicians are mostly corrupt, and none of them even answer their own phones so it's not even on their radar screens.
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Old 04-19-19, 11:14 AM
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Re Asian robo callers, if they were selling drugs or child porn, I can guarantee they'd be shut down tomorrow. There's just no will to do anything about it, because politicians are mostly corrupt, and none of them even answer their own phones so it's not even on their radar screens.
What are the Asian robocallers trying to sell anyway? Is it more than just a way to harvest active numbers?
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Old 04-19-19, 12:21 PM
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A couple of scams come to mind immediately, both of which I have experienced first hand. The first are the calls from guys with very thick Indian accents, claiming to from the IRS and saying I owe them money, and to send the money to them in the form of gift cards.

The other scam is where they steal photos of houses for rent off Zillow, and post Craigslist ads offering to rent the house and posing as the owner, and send you a typically intrusive rental application, in which nearly all your personal info is compromised (which is then harvested). They also request a photo of yourself. This fake landlord claims to be on the road a lot and requests electronic payment of rent and security deposits.

Either of these scams can be done from any country in the world that has internet service. And yes, I understand the difficulty of prosecuting someone from India or Chad, but more needs to be done to stop this kind of thing, or it most certainly will get worse, and the scammers will get progressively more skilled at their trade so that they become increasingly difficult to recognize (and catch).
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There's no money in writing simple programs that only do what they're supposed to do in the most efficient way possible and don't crash. You'll work yourself right out of a job if you do that.

Apparently, the way you become successful writing software, is to write programs that do the exact opposite, and make your money trying to fix the problems your bad programming created.
You must work at a hospital.
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What are the Asian robocallers trying to sell anyway? Is it more than just a way to harvest active numbers?
I'm not sure what all the scams that companies run. Some are likely legit companies soliciting business by attempting to call millions of people, paying the lowest bidder to do so.

I've had a few "Microsoft Employees" call telling me that my computer has a problem, and I presume asking me to shut down firewalls to give them access.

Some could be doing credit card harvesting.

I'm not sure about those cruise ship offers. Credit card harvesting, or perhaps just advertising. Or, there is a catch, like "free" as long as one pays certain other travel expenses through the company. Buy two, get one free?

I've had an odd one call a couple of times, I think (not Asian). It sounds legit. Has my name, but asks me to give them ID verification (last 4 of Social, zip, etc). And, yet, refuses to identify themselves or the purpose of the call before I give them my ID.
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The telephone may become obsolete technology. If service providers won't stop robocalling in their basic packages, they may retire themselves.
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And fraudulent debt harrassment: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...th-a-vengeance
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Two so far this morning.
I told the second guy he was too stupid to get a real job. He didn't have a quick answer the way some do. Then I told him he was too stupid to know what a real job is.

Verizon offers a plan for $3/month to block spoofed numbers - should be simple for Congress to require all companies provide that service for free.
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had three while on the phone with the girl one wasnt block ad left a message the other two were blocked
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
Two so far this morning.
I told the second guy he was too stupid to get a real job. He didn't have a quick answer the way some do. Then I told him he was too stupid to know what a real job is.

Verizon offers a plan for $3/month to block spoofed numbers - should be simple for Congress to require all companies provide that service for free.
You really think Congress wants to cut off the phone lobby?
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There's such a huge profit margin in the telecommunications industry, that they have plenty of $$$ left over to spend on aggressive lobbying in Congress. Heck, AT&T is practically a govt agency, their ties to the feds are so close. They actually collect taxes for the feds on every phone bill. I wish I could get my customers to pay my taxes for me like that.
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