Bike Questions - Handlebar Types
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Sorta like some people may be at bars and some may be behind them.
Non-frivolous answer: Drop bars allow a more aerodynamic position that helps a rider go faster with better power efficiency. Flat bars are more comfortable for most riders and also give better control in rough terrain.
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Non-frivolous answer: Drop bars allow a more aerodynamic position that helps a rider go faster with better power efficiency. Flat bars are more comfortable for most riders and also give better control in rough terrain.
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I don't get the hostility to asking a very basic question.
That said, Moe Zhoost 's non-frivolous answer is pretty good, but I think it misses something. Bikes that are used for very long distances on roads also tend to be equipped with drop bars, and this is at least in part due to comfort. The "riding the hoods" hand position, where the hands rest on the on the rubbery bit of the brake levers, is for most people easier to maintain for hours on end than is the hand position on flat bars. When you ride the hoods, your hands are really pretty much oriented in the same position as they'd be on a steering wheel, thumbs on top, bar grasped with your fingers. You can also grasp the hooks of the drop bars for a different hand position if your hands are getting tired of the same position. On the flat bar, there really is only one hand position, and it's basically got your wrists in the same position as if you were typing, I used to ride long distances on flat bars, but I found as I got tied, I'd lean on my hands more and more, eventually tiring my wrists and hands.
Besides these basic types, there's a number of variants that allow multiple hand positions on basically a flat design. There's also bar ends. You might want to try google for some examples.
That said, Moe Zhoost 's non-frivolous answer is pretty good, but I think it misses something. Bikes that are used for very long distances on roads also tend to be equipped with drop bars, and this is at least in part due to comfort. The "riding the hoods" hand position, where the hands rest on the on the rubbery bit of the brake levers, is for most people easier to maintain for hours on end than is the hand position on flat bars. When you ride the hoods, your hands are really pretty much oriented in the same position as they'd be on a steering wheel, thumbs on top, bar grasped with your fingers. You can also grasp the hooks of the drop bars for a different hand position if your hands are getting tired of the same position. On the flat bar, there really is only one hand position, and it's basically got your wrists in the same position as if you were typing, I used to ride long distances on flat bars, but I found as I got tied, I'd lean on my hands more and more, eventually tiring my wrists and hands.
Besides these basic types, there's a number of variants that allow multiple hand positions on basically a flat design. There's also bar ends. You might want to try google for some examples.
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Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
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Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
Isn't a better reading of the question "why do people favor drop bars or flat bars?"
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Flat bars and drop bars exist because options give a user a chance to use the best setup for their specific needs/situation. Same goes for multiple lofts on a driver, various tread on running shoes, etc.
As for reading the OP's question differently, go ahead if you like. I read it how its worded. 90% sure it isnt a genuine question so I really didnt plan to think about the thread beyond my initial honest and genuine response.
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It all comes down to horses for courses. Thats just a fancier way of saying 'some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs'.
Flat bars and drop bars exist because options give a user a chance to use the best setup for their specific needs/situation. Same goes for multiple lofts on a driver, various tread on running shoes, etc.
As for reading the OP's question differently, go ahead if you like. I read it how its worded. 90% sure it isnt a genuine question so I really didnt plan to think about the thread beyond my initial honest and genuine response.
Flat bars and drop bars exist because options give a user a chance to use the best setup for their specific needs/situation. Same goes for multiple lofts on a driver, various tread on running shoes, etc.
As for reading the OP's question differently, go ahead if you like. I read it how its worded. 90% sure it isnt a genuine question so I really didnt plan to think about the thread beyond my initial honest and genuine response.
So basically you choose to read it as a stupid question that will yield no interesting answer rather than try to talk about why these bars are useful for different things?
"Why is this horse better suited for this course?" is actually a useful question, what's wrong with assuming that the OP actually wanted an answer more useful than "some because people want this and some people want that"?
Hell, somebody on this thread must regularly ride both kinds of bars. What a great opportunity for a "compare and contrast". Also, great case for N+1.
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So basically you choose to read it as a stupid question that will yield no interesting answer rather than try to talk about why these bars are useful for different things?
"Why is this horse better suited for this course?" is actually a useful question, what's wrong with assuming that the OP actually wanted an answer more useful than "some because people want this and some people want that"?
Hell, somebody on this thread must regularly ride both kinds of bars. What a great opportunity for a "compare and contrast". Also, great case for N+1.
"Why is this horse better suited for this course?" is actually a useful question, what's wrong with assuming that the OP actually wanted an answer more useful than "some because people want this and some people want that"?
Hell, somebody on this thread must regularly ride both kinds of bars. What a great opportunity for a "compare and contrast". Also, great case for N+1.
I said there are flat and drops because people often find one more comfortable than the other and because some find one style better suited for their needs(MTB vs Road, commuter vs road, flexibility limitations, etc).
I did not say anything close to 'because some want this and some want that'.
It is unfortunate that you find my response and subsequent answers to be lacking. You clearly want an in depth compare and contrast post to take place so go right ahead and post one(beyond what you already posted on the topic). Instead you are apparently focusing on how you find my responses to be lacking and why I need to do better.
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Generally speaking, as some bikes age it becomes more difficult to maintain upright bars over an extended period of time.
Sometimes it happens in stages and the bars start looking like moustache bars. But as time goes on they go completely to drop bars.
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Sometimes it happens in stages and the bars start looking like moustache bars. But as time goes on they go completely to drop bars.
John
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Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?
Options are great and allow for more participation.
I said there are flat and drops because people often find one more comfortable than the other and because some find one style better suited for their needs(MTB vs Road, commuter vs road, flexibility limitations, etc).
I did not say anything close to 'because some want this and some want that'.
I did not say anything close to 'because some want this and some want that'.
I'm not asking you to do anything other than not being a schmuck to a newbie.
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You lie like a rug. Your whole answer boiled down to "people like options". Literally the only interpretation as to why you included those three completely irrelevant questions. Frankly, the condescension was snarky, and I don't think OP deserved snark.
I'm not asking you to do anything other than not being a schmuck to a newbie.
I'm not asking you to do anything other than not being a schmuck to a newbie.
"Because some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs."
is not at all the same as
"people like options"
I did say options are great because they allow for more participation...because that is true. I had already posted that comfort is a reason for both bar styles and one's specific cycling needs is a reason for both bar styles. Options allow for that to happen. Options allow for someone to have an upright commuter or to ride an MTB comfortably.
Its unfortunate you are hung up on this, but I encourage you to try to move past what you perceive my comments to mean and accept what I have said they mean since, you know, I said them.
It also was not condescending, was not snarky, and I dont think I was being a shmuck. It was a genuine response from me- I decided to post a genuine response instead of a popcorn emoji or some flippant answer since there had already been a few of those and I though this very well could be a genuine question. So I answered it...accurately. The reason there are flat and drop bars really is to help make cycling more comfortable and because the bar styles are best suited for different applications therefore a cyclists needs vary depending on use. Its too bad you dont like that answer, but its correct.
Now why dont you waste an equal amount of time policing all of these thread responses which are clearly unhelpful?
This should be good...
This should be closed.
Because sometimes you feel like a nut, and sometimes you don't.
Why do some bikes have flat tires and some don't?
The OPs question, if even genuine, could be found on a google search.
Go tilt at more windmills.
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As far as to whether the OP’s question is legitimate, I would think the term “drop bars” is not in a typical non cyclist’s vocabulary. I’m not sure my wife, who has ridden drop bars for years would use that phrase. She might call them racing handlebars, I’m not sure.
I’m only guessing, but the phrase may have been found researching on Google. That leads me to think the answer was already pretty easily found online. Most likely just as easy as finding a link to Bike Forums to post the question.
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I’m only guessing, but the phrase may have been found researching on Google. That leads me to think the answer was already pretty easily found online. Most likely just as easy as finding a link to Bike Forums to post the question.
John
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Like I said, someone is looking to argue.
"Because some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs."
is not at all the same as
"people like options"
I did say options are great because they allow for more participation...because that is true. I had already posted that comfort is a reason for both bar styles and one's specific cycling needs is a reason for both bar styles. Options allow for that to happen. Options allow for someone to have an upright commuter or to ride an MTB comfortably.
Its unfortunate you are hung up on this, but I encourage you to try to move past what you perceive my comments to mean and accept what I have said they mean since, you know, I said them.
It also was not condescending, was not snarky, and I dont think I was being a shmuck. It was a genuine response from me- I decided to post a genuine response instead of a popcorn emoji or some flippant answer since there had already been a few of those and I though this very well could be a genuine question. So I answered it...accurately. The reason there are flat and drop bars really is to help make cycling more comfortable and because the bar styles are best suited for different applications therefore a cyclists needs vary depending on use. Its too bad you dont like that answer, but its correct.
Now why dont you waste an equal amount of time policing all of these thread responses which are clearly unhelpful?
Go tilt at more windmills.
"Because some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs."
is not at all the same as
"people like options"
I did say options are great because they allow for more participation...because that is true. I had already posted that comfort is a reason for both bar styles and one's specific cycling needs is a reason for both bar styles. Options allow for that to happen. Options allow for someone to have an upright commuter or to ride an MTB comfortably.
Its unfortunate you are hung up on this, but I encourage you to try to move past what you perceive my comments to mean and accept what I have said they mean since, you know, I said them.
It also was not condescending, was not snarky, and I dont think I was being a shmuck. It was a genuine response from me- I decided to post a genuine response instead of a popcorn emoji or some flippant answer since there had already been a few of those and I though this very well could be a genuine question. So I answered it...accurately. The reason there are flat and drop bars really is to help make cycling more comfortable and because the bar styles are best suited for different applications therefore a cyclists needs vary depending on use. Its too bad you dont like that answer, but its correct.
Now why dont you waste an equal amount of time policing all of these thread responses which are clearly unhelpful?
Go tilt at more windmills.
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