ollie679

Trying to figure out what model my Raleigh is as it has no decals or paint. “Raleigh” is engraved on the lugging near the seat post, the frame number is WH60034. Would appreciate any help.

thanks!

T-Mar

Based on the serial number, your frame was manufactured by Raleigh's Worksop division during June 1976. Typically, Worksop only manufactured the better frames with Reynolds 531 tubesets. I'm not aware of Raleigh having used embossing at this time. Photos?

thumpism 

Pix. Make two more posts and then you can show us what it is.

ollie679

Ok I’ll take some photos

ollie679

Ok I’ll take some photos

ollie679

USAZorro

It sounds more like an 86.

T-Mar

This isn't quite what I was expecting. In 1976 there wasn't stay cap embossing or top tube cable tunnels, at least on the models we saw in Canada and the USA. However, it's clearly from this period based on the bridge hanger for a centre-pull brake. So, I'm thinking you're in a non-American market? It looks like it was previously used as fixie, as the derailleur hanger, eyelets and chain stay mounted cable stop appear to have been removed.

thumpism 

Definitely an oddity.

USAZorro

Checking the 1986 US catalog by color, and not finding a likely match.

My suspicion is a Grand Prix, or a Kodiak.

T-Mar

This shouldn't be from 1986. The serial number indicates Worksop manufacture, but they closed down in the very early 1980s, It should be a 1976-1977 model manufactured in mid-1976. I figure it's foreign market, possibly UK.

USAZorro

Worksop closed after the fire, but production was shifted to Nottingham and the serial scheme remained intact until the end of the 80's. The stamped seat stay caps and top tube cable tunnels put this in the 80's. From looking at online catalogs, the rear brake arch was around on some models until 1986, before disappearing altogether in '87.

thumpism 

Measuring the chainstays or putting a rear wheel in the frame to show the spacing from tire to seat tube would narrow down the choices.

T-Mar

Thank-you for posting. I was not aware that Raleigh continued to employ the Worksop S/N format after the facility closed. I assume that if they continued with it, that it was under the same conditions (i.e. Reynolds 531 frames)? While I agree that embossed stay caps and brake cable tunnels would seem to be indicative of 1980s, I'm having a hard time accepting a 1986 frame of that level using centre-pull brakes and clamp style shift levers.

The 1986 catalogue that you are referencing is for Raleigh USA. The bicycles with the brake cable stop bridge are all touring models with cantilever brakes and vertical dropouts. The Reynolds 531 models all use side-pull brakes, have brazed-on shift lever bosses and even a pump peg. All the 1986 Raleigh USA models I've seen, with the exception of the competition framesets, were made in Japan or Taiwan and used the American head badge. It clearly doesn't match anything in the USA market for 1986 and I strongly suspect it is foreign market.

Charles Wahl

I've only seen those embossed seat stay caps on mid-80s Raleighs contract-built in the West Pacific -- I've no idea why the headbadge would state Nottingham though; maybe I just don't pay enough attention. If the frame was "hacked" to make a fixie of it (it appears to have been repainted) then it's probably lost canti bosses as well as dropout hanger. The BB shell appears to have a hole (filled) for attachment of a plastic under-BB cable guide.

USAZorro

My "expertise" ends about the same time as my interest... roughly '79 - '80. (uncle with the bike shop passed in '79. Joop won the Tour in '80, I stepped out into the unknown in '81) I'm certain of my date assessment, but beyond that, a few things don't fit neatly, and I can't explain or positively identify. I was looking at catalog scans and wasn't able to find the color, frame angles and lack of shifter bosses. Possibly something cudak88 might know.

Pcampeau

After consulting the 1987 “Handbuilt Lightweights” U.K. Catalog on Kurts website it appears there are two models from 87 that have centerpull brake bridges, the Granada and the Royal. Both bikes are good enough to have been made at least in part with Reynolds 531 tubing. The Granada seems to be a very close match except for the color scheme. The subject bike is clearly a repaint but the underlying blue color is way too dark to make this a perfect match, perhaps there is a 1986 U.K. Granada? I wonder if Kurt has any more catalogs that haven’t made it onto his website yet because that’d be neat.

Pcampeau

And a few minutes later, after googling 1986 Raleigh Granada, I believe I found the correct model. I’m useless when it comes to dragging the image over here though. Perhaps someone could help me with that?

sdn40

This ?

Pcampeau

Yes, that’s the one. I think it’s a match? Thanks for the pic assist.

ollie679

Thank you everyone for the info

ollie679

yes the frame is from the UK

ascherer 

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