"...his hat, his little bike shorts..."
06-05-20, 12:45 PM
#51
Randomhead
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 3,696 Times
in
2,517 Posts
06-05-20, 12:48 PM
#52
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,557 Posts
06-05-20, 01:13 PM
#53
Randomhead
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 3,696 Times
in
2,517 Posts
Muppet seems too kind
06-05-20, 01:32 PM
#54
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times
in
5,054 Posts
Likes For livedarklions:
06-05-20, 01:46 PM
#55
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,611
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10955 Post(s)
Liked 7,484 Times
in
4,186 Posts
Seeing the ABC video, the incident is clearer. Looks like a hand was placed on the girl's arm. And it also looks like the camera kid fell down(whether tripped up or not couldnt be seen).
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
06-05-20, 01:49 PM
#56
Randomhead
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Posts: 24,396
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked 3,696 Times
in
2,517 Posts
Pretty clear he pushed the cameraperson down with the bike.
I know someone that could be this guy's twin, and has a very similar bike. OTOH, he doesn't live near there and isn't riding due to medical issues. I hate to see people mining the internet looking for cyclists that look like this guy. It's remarkably difficult to identify someone from a picture with a helmet on
I know someone that could be this guy's twin, and has a very similar bike. OTOH, he doesn't live near there and isn't riding due to medical issues. I hate to see people mining the internet looking for cyclists that look like this guy. It's remarkably difficult to identify someone from a picture with a helmet on
06-05-20, 01:56 PM
#57
serious cyclist
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin
Posts: 21,147
Bikes: S1, R2, P2
Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9334 Post(s)
Liked 3,679 Times
in
2,026 Posts
Seeing the ABC video, the incident is clearer. Looks like a hand was placed on the girl's arm. And it also looks like the camera kid fell down(whether tripped up or not couldnt be seen).
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
Likes For Bah Humbug:
06-05-20, 02:09 PM
#58
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,611
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10955 Post(s)
Liked 7,484 Times
in
4,186 Posts
I agree that he shouldnt be treated more gently than someone in possession of weed.
06-05-20, 02:10 PM
#59
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times
in
5,054 Posts
I doubt he'd be charged with a felony, this looks like misdemeanor assault. But weirdly, in MD, misdemeanor assault is punishable by up to 10 years imprisonment. I did a double-take when I read that.
06-05-20, 02:11 PM
#60
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,235
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18410 Post(s)
Liked 15,531 Times
in
7,327 Posts
My wife and I were discussing this morning during a hardware and grocery run that people were much more polite when everyone wore masks during the beginning of lockdown but now that things are easing up the *ssh*l*s are back in bloom. Not just in parking lots but inside the stores the lane discipline and courtesy have evaporated.
Last edited by indyfabz; 06-05-20 at 02:16 PM.
06-05-20, 02:13 PM
#61
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times
in
5,054 Posts
I'm not a very punitive guy overall, but if a man that age doesn't know it's wrong to physically attack an 11 year old girl, he needs a pretty harsh object lesson.
06-05-20, 02:29 PM
#62
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,611
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10955 Post(s)
Liked 7,484 Times
in
4,186 Posts
Assuming he is white collar, a conviction will follow him and from here on out he will have a very different life due to the conviction and notoriety.
I would assume anyone that age knows its wrong to take papers away from a girl by placing a hand on the child's arm. Clearly the guy was emotional and while that does not excuse the actions, many in this world never learned to control their emotions and **** like this happens. Thankfully it was just placing a hand on her arm and trying to take away some papers. That, to me, doesnt warrant prison. It is deserving of jail after arrest and paying back to the community thru work and classes.
I just happened to read what the fliers said. If the theory that he is a cop is correct, I could see the wording on those fliers being something that could make him emotional.
Likes For REDMASTA:
06-05-20, 02:45 PM
#64
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,235
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18410 Post(s)
Liked 15,531 Times
in
7,327 Posts
If he is a cop and cannot sufficiently control his emotions in that situation to stop himself from assaulting and battering a child then he needs to resign immediately.
Likes For indyfabz:
06-05-20, 02:47 PM
#65
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8186 Post(s)
Liked 9,098 Times
in
5,054 Posts
Arrest him on a friday, he has to stay there til Monday. Have him pay retribution financially thru court costs and socially thru community service and court ordered classes.
Assuming he is white collar, a conviction will follow him and from here on out he will have a very different life due to the conviction and notoriety.
I would assume anyone that age knows its wrong to take papers away from a girl by placing a hand on the child's arm. Clearly the guy was emotional and while that does not excuse the actions, many in this world never learned to control their emotions and **** like this happens. Thankfully it was just placing a hand on her arm and trying to take away some papers. That, to me, doesnt warrant prison. It is deserving of jail after arrest and paying back to the community thru work and classes.
I just happened to read what the fliers said. If the theory that he is a cop is correct, I could see the wording on those fliers being something that could make him emotional.
Assuming he is white collar, a conviction will follow him and from here on out he will have a very different life due to the conviction and notoriety.
I would assume anyone that age knows its wrong to take papers away from a girl by placing a hand on the child's arm. Clearly the guy was emotional and while that does not excuse the actions, many in this world never learned to control their emotions and **** like this happens. Thankfully it was just placing a hand on her arm and trying to take away some papers. That, to me, doesnt warrant prison. It is deserving of jail after arrest and paying back to the community thru work and classes.
I just happened to read what the fliers said. If the theory that he is a cop is correct, I could see the wording on those fliers being something that could make him emotional.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. That was some serious criminal behavior aimed at an 11 year old girl.
Likes For livedarklions:
06-05-20, 02:55 PM
#66
Sunshine
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 16,611
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Mentioned: 123 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10955 Post(s)
Liked 7,484 Times
in
4,186 Posts
06-05-20, 03:06 PM
#67
Occam's Rotor
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 7,248
Mentioned: 61 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2366 Post(s)
Liked 2,331 Times
in
1,164 Posts
I do think our society needs to re-think prisons. Our prison population is absurdly high. If this guy was forced to scrub toilets for 20 hours per week at a local homeless shelter for the next 5 years, I would be content with that.
Likes For Cyclist0108:
06-05-20, 03:09 PM
#68
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,624
Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1324 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times
in
640 Posts
Seeing the ABC video, the incident is clearer. Looks like a hand was placed on the girl's arm. And it also looks like the camera kid fell down(whether tripped up or not couldnt be seen).
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
Hopefully once this guy is found, he will have to go thru the legal process and recognize that his behavior was unacceptable. It would be great if his punishment for the crimes of placing a hand on a kid and intimidating someone with a bicycle is to pay for the legal process, doing community service, and taking court ordered behavior classes.
In the end, the goal should be for the individual to have an opportunity to learn what he did was wrong and how to handle himself in the future.
"The teen said the cyclist injured his calf. He posted a photo showing a gash on his leg. He wrote on ******, “he rammed his bike into me and tried to pin me to the ground with it."'
Also, one person already has been misidentified as being that attacker and has had to post multiple times and places to clear his name.
Cheers
06-05-20, 03:11 PM
#69
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Traveling through time, will return last week.
Posts: 730
Bikes: Bare Rum Sword Knuckle Runner
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 278 Post(s)
Liked 122 Times
in
64 Posts
warning: using androgel as a chamois creme may cause moobs and unwarrented aggression towards minors
Likes For Pratt:
06-05-20, 04:25 PM
#71
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,557 Posts
Not to dwell on this but, since this was the first I knew of the incident, it was Gayle's comments afterward that got me and which provided the title of this thread. It usually takes a couple of hours for some stories to show up online after broadcast or I would have provided this link much sooner.
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/video-...loyd-flyers/#x
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/video-...loyd-flyers/#x
06-05-20, 04:36 PM
#72
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lebanon (Liberty Hill), CT
Posts: 8,473
Bikes: CAAD 12, MASI Gran Criterium S, Colnago World Cup CX & Guru steel
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1743 Post(s)
Liked 1,281 Times
in
740 Posts
Not sticking up for the perp, and I'm not familiar with the area (I'm on the west coast), but does the area get a lot of flyers put up on post/fences/walls/etc? Things like that can make an area look really trashy really quick, and cops just give up trying to enforce any ordinances on posting signs. I've got a utility pole outside my house that gets all kinds of signs posted - lost cats/dogs, cars for sale, garage sales, band appearances, real estate sales (weeks-old signs) - it gets annoying.
06-05-20, 04:42 PM
#74
Bikes are okay, I guess.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938
Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times
in
1,557 Posts
06-05-20, 04:57 PM
#75
Senior Member
I wondered if this topic had popped up. Sure enough. I have another thought. Here in Seattle we are pretty white bread overall. In the last few years I have noticed a lot more people of color cycling. This is good. I am a doctor and deal with the eye complications of diabetes. Considering the content of the material he was mad about, and assaulting a little girl, how would he deal with a Black, Asian, Hispanic cyclist? People out trying to be healthier have to deal with this ****? Find out who he is. Make him (in)famous
Likes For etherhuffer: