Paint pen lug lining! PICS!
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Paint pen lug lining! PICS!
I have started to work on a chrome Paramount frame, Nov. 1970 serial, that I am building up for Mrs. K. It has Nervex lugs, and surprisingly, a Nervex BB. The frame is stripped of decals. I could see the remnants of the red lug linings but they were 95% gone. I recalled from some past thread that you could use a paint pen, available at craft stores such as Michael's to line lugs.
Figuring that if it did not work out, lacquer thinner would wipe the whole mistake out, I gave it a try. I don't have any artistic ability, can't draw a straight line, and making it worse I am left handed. All that notwithstanding, the results were great!
I bought 3 paint pens on sale for about $2 each and gave 2 of them a try. The fine line one worked best.
I recall reading somewhere that the person who lined the Paramount lugs died sometime in the early 70's and was never replaced. My late 72 Paramount has no signs that it had lug lining, my late 71 did.
Figuring that if it did not work out, lacquer thinner would wipe the whole mistake out, I gave it a try. I don't have any artistic ability, can't draw a straight line, and making it worse I am left handed. All that notwithstanding, the results were great!
I bought 3 paint pens on sale for about $2 each and gave 2 of them a try. The fine line one worked best.
I recall reading somewhere that the person who lined the Paramount lugs died sometime in the early 70's and was never replaced. My late 72 Paramount has no signs that it had lug lining, my late 71 did.
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Sweet. I was thinking it'd be cool to line the lugs on my old Trek just to let them stand out and give the bike some class. I see that it can indeed work. Nicely done.
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That turned out really nice, great job!
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Awesome job and thanks for the great tip on make, type and size pen to use. I love lug lining on seventies frames, and yours live up to my expectations. Cool.
Jan
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Wow! Very nice job! One question, you mention you used the fine pen but you show the extra fine in the picture - which one did you use?
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That looks really really nice!
Do you know if the paint in this pen is colorfast??? If it isn't, exposure to sunlight over time will fade it until it becomes invisible. I do know that you can buy pens like this at automotive supply stores that are expressly made for outside exposure. And they come in many colors.
Do you know if the paint in this pen is colorfast??? If it isn't, exposure to sunlight over time will fade it until it becomes invisible. I do know that you can buy pens like this at automotive supply stores that are expressly made for outside exposure. And they come in many colors.
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I started with the fine, then washed the first lug off and went to extra fine.
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That looks really really nice!
Do you know if the paint in this pen is colorfast??? If it isn't, exposure to sunlight over time will fade it until it becomes invisible. I do know that you can buy pens like this at automotive supply stores that are expressly made for outside exposure. And they come in many colors.
Do you know if the paint in this pen is colorfast??? If it isn't, exposure to sunlight over time will fade it until it becomes invisible. I do know that you can buy pens like this at automotive supply stores that are expressly made for outside exposure. And they come in many colors.
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1974 Raleigh Professional Blue Mink
1991 Waterford Paramount
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1973 Paramount P-15 Opaque Blue
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looks good! might give this a try for some older lugged-french mixtes I have laying around
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I have used a paint pen for lining lugs before, and I had similar results. I wasn't able to keep the pen's tip from drying out after the first use. But for $2, it's no big deal.
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Hey! what a coincidence. I just did the same thing with a gold paint pen for my Falcon build. I'm going to clearcoat the finishwhen I'm done.
A word of caution though... As I was experimenting with the paint pen and clear coat I learned that you need to lay down the clear coat in a very fine/thin mist for the first coat or else the lining will start to bleed.
A word of caution though... As I was experimenting with the paint pen and clear coat I learned that you need to lay down the clear coat in a very fine/thin mist for the first coat or else the lining will start to bleed.
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nice job---only the second chrome paramount frame I have seen with nervex bottom bracket---Mine is also a 1970----Mrs K is going to have a nice looking ride----Jim
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I checked online to see if these pens are lightfast/colorfast, and they are.
Here is the website for the company that makes them : https://www.marvy.com/about/Default.aspx
They make a lot of different types and colors, including glitter! And they have a good color chart.
Here is the website for the company that makes them : https://www.marvy.com/about/Default.aspx
They make a lot of different types and colors, including glitter! And they have a good color chart.
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I've had decent luck w/paint pens, and I'm left handed. I'd be pretty nervous using one on a frame that nice, though. Did the paint come off easily when you switched pens?
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Hilarious, but paint pens have to be held at a certain angle for the paint to flow from the barrel into the tip properly. They do have a certain "handedness" to them, especially since maintaining the correct angle makes it easier to drag the side of the left hand across the paint. Mess it up and you get a big glop of paint where you don't want it.
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Here's a link to the specific pens noted in this thread. Do you suppose these would work as well on a powder coated frame that will not be getting any clear coat over the top?
and I simply Googled "DECOCOLOR® PAINT MARKER, EXTRA FINE" and found several online stores that carry them. My order has been placed!
Chris
and I simply Googled "DECOCOLOR® PAINT MARKER, EXTRA FINE" and found several online stores that carry them. My order has been placed!
Chris
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Many arts/crafts/hobby stores will carry them as well. Some big box office stores, too.
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I did the lugs on my Super Course with a pinstriping brush, and pinstriping paint. I like your results a bit better than mine for the accuracy and cleanliness of the linings.
Pinstriping paint flows differently and creates a kinda different shaped bead of paint, but this looks really good.
Pinstriping paint flows differently and creates a kinda different shaped bead of paint, but this looks really good.
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Sword, quill or liner brush?
A striping sword would be the least likely to do a good job on lugs, as it's made for long lines on a flat surface, such as your car.
A lettering quill or liner brush is going to be much better, but some tight lugs shapes, as in your SC, need a shorter bristle to maintain line thickness.
Would that be One-Shot lettering enamel? Or you got something else?
A striping sword would be the least likely to do a good job on lugs, as it's made for long lines on a flat surface, such as your car.
A lettering quill or liner brush is going to be much better, but some tight lugs shapes, as in your SC, need a shorter bristle to maintain line thickness.
Would that be One-Shot lettering enamel? Or you got something else?