Compass Tire Hype: Warning
#76
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YES! You totally get it man!!!!!!!!!
And yes, the silence, it's brilliant, the world disappears. It's like your brain and all your senses shut off, and your body is running on auto pilot. And the best experience is IF you become aware of the state that you are in, you can relax, embrace it, and go deeper. If you think about what you are doing, you'll just ruin the whole thing.
Another beautiful part of it is, you know that your rowing team mate (riding buddy) is right there in that same strange place with you, experiencing every detail at the exact same time. It's like an unconscious bonding ballet. Connected.
And yes, the silence, it's brilliant, the world disappears. It's like your brain and all your senses shut off, and your body is running on auto pilot. And the best experience is IF you become aware of the state that you are in, you can relax, embrace it, and go deeper. If you think about what you are doing, you'll just ruin the whole thing.
Another beautiful part of it is, you know that your rowing team mate (riding buddy) is right there in that same strange place with you, experiencing every detail at the exact same time. It's like an unconscious bonding ballet. Connected.
I think it's similar to runner's high. I only experienced it once on the bike and that was at like 3am near the end of a 24hr ride. We were on the wide open PCH, I was soaked from rain and I wasn't wearing my eye glasses because they were all smudged up. I was essentially riding blind and just followed a few red lights (my friends' rear lights) when I ended up in this euphoric tunnel vision. That experience drew me in to attempt a second 24hr ride a few months later but nothing happened. That makes me wonder what causes this state of mind or whatever it is to initiate. Why is it less likely to happen while riding a bike than when one goes for a run (assuming it is common enough to have its own term)? I have only experienced it a hand full of times but each instance occurred during a mentally and physically trying time.
#77
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Party over, back to reality.
I think both are mandatory ingredients for the recipe, and that they must occur simultaneously.
It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.
https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high
each instance occurred during a mentally and physically trying time.
It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.
https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high
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I ride my super light compass 38s on terrain I would not in my wildest dreams consider a road. Jagged rocks, dirt, mud, whatever. These things haven't punctured once. I just don't get it. They are amazing tires in every way. Put them back on tarmac and they're schweeeeeet.
The reason I bring this up is, it's actually good news for you once your current tires wear out. The next batch of Barlows should be significantly lighter. At least that's what they are working towards. Or, if your frame allows, you could move up to 44s and still reduce a lot of weight. That would be a soft and speedy ride.
This is what caught my eye and prompted me to contact them. 1/4 lb less for a larger tire???
Barlow 38mm. Standard and EL, 461 and 417 grams
Snoqualmie 44mm. Standard and EL, 378 and 329 grams
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I wanted to give Compass tires a try and support their concept but the 32mm aren't tubeless ready and 35mm tires are tubeless ready but saw a review in Cyclocross mag in 8/16 that said they were difficult to setup tubeless and after finally getting them to seat they have sealant seepage thru the sidewalls. So I went with Schwalbe G-1's in both 30mm for road & 35mm for off road. They setup tubeless very easy and ride great.
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Shill Zombie Hard at Work
And because I am a truly obnoxious shill, I'm going to quote myself.
Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.
And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
Recently, the German magazine TOUR published a table showing the ‘five fastest tires in the world.’ We are excited to see our Compass Bon Jon Pass 700C x 35 mm tires on this list, in the company of the fastest racing tires.
And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
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And, according to Jan, they tested the tires without a rider. Which in theory, should make the wider tires even faster when laden with the weight of a rider.
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Damn you to hell, @SquidPuppet. I thought this thread would free me from the Compa$$ temptation, but NO. You freaking made it worse.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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It's all about the drugs. The ones your body makes.
https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high
https://www.runnersworld.com/running...a-runners-high
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Damn you to hell, @SquidPuppet. I thought this thread would free me from the Compa$$ temptation, but NO. You freaking made it worse.
Thanks.
Thanks.
It's worth the price of admission just to experience how weird they are. At least once. It's like, "Why, why, why, why, didn't I feel that? I saw it. I know I ran over it. Why???......"
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Yea, they've locked up my tire dollars for, I dunno, 2 more decades. Why would I ever buy 90$ Vittoria's?
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Miss my Bon Jons... Thinking about going to the Steilacoom though next.
Has anyone here set up either tubeless?
Has anyone here set up either tubeless?
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last yr I spent $100 on tires for a $50 beater bike
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For me it was sharp rocky single track that finally popped my extra lights.
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I've been riding the regular version (in 28 and 32) for 3 years now on 3 bikes. They are so light and supple that I saw no reason to try the extra lights. I figured I didn't need sidewalls even more flimsy.
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And because I am a truly obnoxious shill, I'm going to quote myself.
Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.
And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
Evidently I wasn't hallucinating.
And they tested the standard casing, not the "Extralight", which is even faster.
https://janheine.wordpress.com/?mc_c...eid=c50240ab6e
No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)
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that graph is wrong
No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)
No ways are GP 4000 SII faster than Specialized Turbo Cottons ..... not in a million years ... I have a pair mounted on my daily commuter and will get them again (and again) .... it's like comparing chalk with cheese .... The Cotton's are amazing tyres (1365 Km so far .... one puncture that would have punctured a tractor tyre and these are fast, grip like glue in the dry and the wet and make you want to ride faster)
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Since I don't speak German very well, this is a graph of Rolling Resistance, correct? So the less resistance a tire has, the faster it is, making the Vittoria Corsa Speed Open the fastest tire depicted in this graph?
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Love this thread and especially @SquidPuppet's writing as well!
Has anyone had specific experiences with the 26x2.3" tires - the Rat Trap? I would be using them (as my moniker indicates) in NYC for daily commuting and once the weather is nice, many tours around long island, the city and upstate (into Vermont).
Currently run Big Apples 26x2.35, which I actually really like, but they feel slow and sluggish. Was hoping to get these for faster more fun ride (I have no idea what supple actually means). My biggest concern is flats... Looking around the net, there's little about the wider tires and lots of complaining about the narrower (see this from another site: I'd try meth before running these tires again). So, please convince me! Life is short, I want the best ride I can get, but I can't have flats all the time on the way to work... Especially curious about standard/ultralight casing on the wider widths. Thanks in advance mates.
(EDIT - weird, my link to the r**t site was removed for some reason. if you're interested in that thread, something search for the phrase "Hands down the worst tires I've ridden: Compass Stampede Pass Extralights aka paperthins", its quite an interesting thread).
Has anyone had specific experiences with the 26x2.3" tires - the Rat Trap? I would be using them (as my moniker indicates) in NYC for daily commuting and once the weather is nice, many tours around long island, the city and upstate (into Vermont).
Currently run Big Apples 26x2.35, which I actually really like, but they feel slow and sluggish. Was hoping to get these for faster more fun ride (I have no idea what supple actually means). My biggest concern is flats... Looking around the net, there's little about the wider tires and lots of complaining about the narrower (see this from another site: I'd try meth before running these tires again). So, please convince me! Life is short, I want the best ride I can get, but I can't have flats all the time on the way to work... Especially curious about standard/ultralight casing on the wider widths. Thanks in advance mates.
(EDIT - weird, my link to the r**t site was removed for some reason. if you're interested in that thread, something search for the phrase "Hands down the worst tires I've ridden: Compass Stampede Pass Extralights aka paperthins", its quite an interesting thread).