Bar ends: did you feel crowded?
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Bar ends: did you feel crowded?
Have you added bar ends and did you feel crowded on the bars after? Or was it fine?
I'm talking about the add-on handle protrusions off a flat bar that stick forward kind of like bullhorns.
I'm getting mirrors and I need a place to mount them on my flat bars, so I'm considering bar ends for that.
Like these:
I'm talking about the add-on handle protrusions off a flat bar that stick forward kind of like bullhorns.
I'm getting mirrors and I need a place to mount them on my flat bars, so I'm considering bar ends for that.
Like these:
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On the narrow XC bars we used to run on 26" MTB's BITD, they were good for the extra leverage, and for us East Coast guys, the '3/4' style was good for fending off branches and saplings when trailbreaking and bushwhacking.
The modern 650mm+ bars don't need the extra leverage, so bar-ends are superfluous. I'm not sure why you'd need to mount a bar-end just so that you could mount a mirror to it. I've seen people who do use them to mount mirrors and lights, but rather than crowding your hands, it feels more like using moose antlers for handlebars.
The modern 650mm+ bars don't need the extra leverage, so bar-ends are superfluous. I'm not sure why you'd need to mount a bar-end just so that you could mount a mirror to it. I've seen people who do use them to mount mirrors and lights, but rather than crowding your hands, it feels more like using moose antlers for handlebars.
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Put 'em inboard.
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Very comfy-looking setup. If I ever rode across the USA, that's the setup I would want.
I would wanna add another bar end to the seat tube to help me whenever I pick up the bike. Seems original, and a conversation piece to boot.
I would wanna add another bar end to the seat tube to help me whenever I pick up the bike. Seems original, and a conversation piece to boot.
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They do move your grips inward. So this is not a matter of “crowded” but of how wide apart you like your grips. If you think the grips will be too close together, just ise a wider bar. You can test this right now by simply moving your grips in and see how it feels.
However, if you are only doing this for the purpose of installing a mirror, there are more straightforward ways to do so, like ones that mount like bar end plugs in the end of the bar, if you are OK with that possition.
However, if you are only doing this for the purpose of installing a mirror, there are more straightforward ways to do so, like ones that mount like bar end plugs in the end of the bar, if you are OK with that possition.
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I have pretty much the same bar end set up. I attached one of these mirrors to the bend of the left-hand bar end and if you orient the mirror so the long dimension is vertical, it works just like a truck rear view mirror:
https://www.amazon.com/UltraLite-acc...an+bike+mirror
Since I never actually rest my hand on the bend, I don't miss the small amount of the bar end I lose.
https://www.amazon.com/UltraLite-acc...an+bike+mirror
Since I never actually rest my hand on the bend, I don't miss the small amount of the bar end I lose.
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Have you added bar ends and did you feel crowded on the bars after? Or was it fine?
I'm talking about the add-on handle protrusions off a flat bar that stick forward kind of like bullhorns.
I'm getting mirrors and I need a place to mount them on my flat bars, so I'm considering bar ends for that.
Like these:
I'm talking about the add-on handle protrusions off a flat bar that stick forward kind of like bullhorns.
I'm getting mirrors and I need a place to mount them on my flat bars, so I'm considering bar ends for that.
Like these:
DSCN1058 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
I actually got the righthand mirror so that the mirror hangs below the handlebar. A lefthand mirror stands above the bar and interferes with the use of the bar ends.
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On the narrow XC bars we used to run on 26" MTB's BITD, they were good for the extra leverage, and for us East Coast guys, the '3/4' style was good for fending off branches and saplings when trailbreaking and bushwhacking.
The modern 650mm+ bars don't need the extra leverage, so bar-ends are superfluous. I'm not sure why you'd need to mount a bar-end just so that you could mount a mirror to it. I've seen people who do use them to mount mirrors and lights, but rather than crowding your hands, it feels more like using moose antlers for handlebars.
The modern 650mm+ bars don't need the extra leverage, so bar-ends are superfluous. I'm not sure why you'd need to mount a bar-end just so that you could mount a mirror to it. I've seen people who do use them to mount mirrors and lights, but rather than crowding your hands, it feels more like using moose antlers for handlebars.
The other win with barends may be a cheap way to begin trying different fore/aft rider positions without having to use a whole different set of bars yet. Especially for climbing, which I do a lot of since my neighborhood is almost all hills
My bars are 630mm, maybe I'll need something wider after all.
That sounds like good times.
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Although I'm a proponent of helmet mirrors over bar mounted mirrors, I have had to mount mirrors on bikes with flat bars because my wife doesn't like helmet mirrors. My solution was to use a Zefal Doobak mirror. It's a nice mirror and inserts into the handlebar. The barends won't interfere with the mount. You can see it on the left hand side in this picture
That's my plan, I'm getting both, Take-A-Look for the helmet and thinking Ortlieb for the bars. I'll try em both and keep what works. (.. and the Ortlieb looks identical to the D+D UltraLite linked above.)
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Anything on the handlebar I like to bolt it up and try it out. before I commit myself to something that can't be undone.
I tend to prefer narrower handlebars and almost always shortened them a little. That's when I learned about trying them out before cutting the end of the bar.
I tend to prefer narrower handlebars and almost always shortened them a little. That's when I learned about trying them out before cutting the end of the bar.
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I have my bar ends inside the brake handles. They work great.
I don't feel cramped, like the OP is looking to avoid. When I had them on the outside the outside of my hands pressed against them and I felt cramped. When them inside my hand is a good inch from the bar end when holding the normal grips. Plus when I'm holding the bar ends I can drop down much quicker to the brake levers without having to pull my hand back and around the bar end.
With the interior positioning I get all the advantages of the bar ends on the outside. It's an alternate hand position and a place to grab and pull for a climb. And they don't have the down sides like your hands feeling cramped inside them of hooking low hanging tree branches/other bikers
What they end up feeling like is holding the shifter hoods on a drop bar. The ergonomics of the grip are a bit different, but that's roughly the same position I'm in when I'm on the bar ends.
I don't feel cramped, like the OP is looking to avoid. When I had them on the outside the outside of my hands pressed against them and I felt cramped. When them inside my hand is a good inch from the bar end when holding the normal grips. Plus when I'm holding the bar ends I can drop down much quicker to the brake levers without having to pull my hand back and around the bar end.
With the interior positioning I get all the advantages of the bar ends on the outside. It's an alternate hand position and a place to grab and pull for a climb. And they don't have the down sides like your hands feeling cramped inside them of hooking low hanging tree branches/other bikers
What they end up feeling like is holding the shifter hoods on a drop bar. The ergonomics of the grip are a bit different, but that's roughly the same position I'm in when I'm on the bar ends.
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I've never got on with them. They were all the rage in the late '80s and I tried a few, but the hand position was all wrong. My Merlin came with bullhorns and I couldn't cope.
With flat bars your hands are in the wrong position because they're just too straight. Maybe you can get more straight poles on a pallet but it does nothing for the riding position.
I held my hands out in loose fists with a handlegrip in each, and looked at them. I closed my eyes and let my hands move to the most comfortable position. When i opened my eyes, the grips were in a position none of my bikes had ever had...
What I needed, apparently, were moustache bars, angled slightly downwards. I bough an Ergotec Space Bugle and i absolutely love it, i've used it on my last three dailys - if you like your bars low, you can get the grips lower than your top tube by mounting them upside down. And you can cut a gap out the middle of the curve for an inboard pair.
With flat bars your hands are in the wrong position because they're just too straight. Maybe you can get more straight poles on a pallet but it does nothing for the riding position.
I held my hands out in loose fists with a handlegrip in each, and looked at them. I closed my eyes and let my hands move to the most comfortable position. When i opened my eyes, the grips were in a position none of my bikes had ever had...
What I needed, apparently, were moustache bars, angled slightly downwards. I bough an Ergotec Space Bugle and i absolutely love it, i've used it on my last three dailys - if you like your bars low, you can get the grips lower than your top tube by mounting them upside down. And you can cut a gap out the middle of the curve for an inboard pair.
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I've never got on with them. They were all the rage in the late '80s and I tried a few, but the hand position was all wrong. My Merlin came with bullhorns and I couldn't cope.
With flat bars your hands are in the wrong position because they're just too straight. Maybe you can get more straight poles on a pallet but it does nothing for the riding position.
I held my hands out in loose fists with a handlegrip in each, and looked at them. I closed my eyes and let my hands move to the most comfortable position. When i opened my eyes, the grips were in a position none of my bikes had ever had...
What I needed, apparently, were moustache bars, angled slightly downwards. I bough an Ergotec Space Bugle and i absolutely love it, i've used it on my last three dailys - if you like your bars low, you can get the grips lower than your top tube by mounting them upside down. And you can cut a gap out the middle of the curve for an inboard pair.
With flat bars your hands are in the wrong position because they're just too straight. Maybe you can get more straight poles on a pallet but it does nothing for the riding position.
I held my hands out in loose fists with a handlegrip in each, and looked at them. I closed my eyes and let my hands move to the most comfortable position. When i opened my eyes, the grips were in a position none of my bikes had ever had...
What I needed, apparently, were moustache bars, angled slightly downwards. I bough an Ergotec Space Bugle and i absolutely love it, i've used it on my last three dailys - if you like your bars low, you can get the grips lower than your top tube by mounting them upside down. And you can cut a gap out the middle of the curve for an inboard pair.
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KT-3 I think it's called (I call it Katy), yeah I like it. It has a lot of parameter settings and has allowed me to customise the bike to behave just how I want it.
Unfortunately it's only rated up to 48v systems (working well with 54.4v max).
My motor is rated 1.5-3.0kw and is currently reaching 2kw. But my new motor is rated at 3.0-8.0kw and i'm gonna have to keep it at 48v for now until I can find a new system.
Unfortunately it's only rated up to 48v systems (working well with 54.4v max).
My motor is rated 1.5-3.0kw and is currently reaching 2kw. But my new motor is rated at 3.0-8.0kw and i'm gonna have to keep it at 48v for now until I can find a new system.
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This is probably a better photo for both the screen and bars...
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I have my bar ends inside the brake handles. They work great.
I don't feel cramped, like the OP is looking to avoid. When I had them on the outside the outside of my hands pressed against them and I felt cramped. When them inside my hand is a good inch from the bar end when holding the normal grips. Plus when I'm holding the bar ends I can drop down much quicker to the brake levers without having to pull my hand back and around the bar end.
With the interior positioning I get all the advantages of the bar ends on the outside. It's an alternate hand position and a place to grab and pull for a climb. And they don't have the down sides like your hands feeling cramped inside them of hooking low hanging tree branches/other bikers
What they end up feeling like is holding the shifter hoods on a drop bar. The ergonomics of the grip are a bit different, but that's roughly the same position I'm in when I'm on the bar ends.
I don't feel cramped, like the OP is looking to avoid. When I had them on the outside the outside of my hands pressed against them and I felt cramped. When them inside my hand is a good inch from the bar end when holding the normal grips. Plus when I'm holding the bar ends I can drop down much quicker to the brake levers without having to pull my hand back and around the bar end.
With the interior positioning I get all the advantages of the bar ends on the outside. It's an alternate hand position and a place to grab and pull for a climb. And they don't have the down sides like your hands feeling cramped inside them of hooking low hanging tree branches/other bikers
What they end up feeling like is holding the shifter hoods on a drop bar. The ergonomics of the grip are a bit different, but that's roughly the same position I'm in when I'm on the bar ends.
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is there any chance of a bicycle mirror for a drop bar Road Bike? i am looking for one that allows me to use all the positions on a drop bar handle bar.
thanks.
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This other topic should help too: https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...t-mounted.html
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