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Old 05-10-20, 05:50 PM
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GB Bars - Vintage and Model ..?

Does anyone know the approximate vintage and model of this GB handlebar? I am hoping to fit it to my Torpado which came with Ambrosia Champion bars but they are way too narrow for me. Anyway, what vintage and model...
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The Ambrosio Champion stem has a clamp diameter of 26.0mm

The GB bar has a centre section diameter of 25.4mm

The Dawes Galaxy it is on looks to be a boomer



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https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...de-butler.html

See some of the last posts of this topic. These engraved bars were made for Dawes by GB. That's the general consensus in previous discussions and in most photos of them online. Some of them are even stamped "Dawes," like the example in the topic above.

I know for a fact the engraved bars were provided stock on the Dawes Double Blue model as early as 1958, but they were likely used on various models for quite a while given how many are still floating around today. If they're on a Dawes right now, you can probably bet they're original to the bike.

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I had the same bars on a early 1970's Falcon

EDIT: mine had GB engraved on them

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Anyway, what vintage and model...
Would these bars, the GB ones, be mid sixties or a earlier? I am hoping to use them on my Torpado. And, yes, the clamp size is smaller but the GB stem seems to snug up nicely. I will give the bar clamp situation the torture test later today, after I thaw out the fn pipes again - fourth time this week. It is still bloody cold here and it snowed again, yesterday. Pooey-stinko! Gonna go for a ride anyway, cold or not. Anyway, the original GB Spear Point stem that came with the Torpado...
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Like I said, I know the engraved bars were offered with some Dawes models as early as the late 1950s, so you should be good if you only need them to date to the '60s!

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They look to be 50's-60's to me. They did make this bar for quite a long time before they went bust.
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Dawes are so nice, green is a great colour for them.
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I'm confused. your Torpado came to you with aGB/Ambrosio combo and now
you want to fit a GB/GB combo? you want the bars to be the correct era
but are unconcerned with them being the correct brand? just be sure the bars
and stem are the EXACT same size. a cast piece like an alu-alloy stem has
NO elasticity.
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'm confused. your Torpado came to you with aGB/Ambrosio combo and now
you want to fit a GB/GB combo? you want the bars to be the correct era
but are unconcerned with them being the correct brand? just be sure the bars
and stem are the EXACT same size. a cast piece like an alu-alloy stem has
NO elasticity.
Your point is well taken and, even before your comment, I decided to keep the bike as "as found" as I can. I will swap out the freewheel simply because it is too hard for me to push, these days. but all other items will be as found, again with one more exception that comes to mind - the saddle. The one on the bike is not for me and I have a NOS B17 that has been waiting for a new home. The Torpado is it. Now, I gotta run. A fellow just called me and offered me an Olmo for free. Pictures later if it turns out that I am not dreaming.
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the Ambrosio bars will need either an Ambrosio, Fiamme,or 3ttt
stem. the 3T grand prix might be easier to find and cheaper
than the other two
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A fellow just called me and offered me an Olmo for free. Pictures later if it turns out that I am not dreaming.
Well, the bike is pretty old. I'm guessing fifties or early sixties, but that is just a guess. Sadly, there are already too many projects (Torpado, Carlton, Quintanna Roo and soon to be done, Rabeneick). The Olmo will be parted out, primarily for the wheel set, and the frame/fork set hung up in some corner somewhere. There are few original issue components still fitted to the bicycle. Anyway, my new old Olmo featuring really old Campy drops...




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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Anyway, my new old Olmo featuring really old Campy drops...

Those look like the 1010/1 stamped dropouts, used up into the 1970s:

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Regarding the bars, they are the Dawes Concord bars made by GB (as previously mentioned) which they used on several of their models in the late 50's and 60's. I have a Dawes Red Feather from 1959 that has them.
I'm sure you have seen this from velobase
VeloBase.com - Component: Dawes Concorde
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@ JohnDThompsan -
Those look like the 1010/1 stamped dropouts, used up into the 1970s:
Well, I am still learning new things. First set of these entry level Campy drops to ever come my way. Shows what I do know and I don't even know for sure if the bike is an Olmo. I do know that it does not appear to be anything exotic.

As for bars, got another set of GB bars, attached to a Milremo stem the other day. See my tip on removing fossilized handlebar tape. Rather than hours, or days of finger damaging picking and pulling, I put these bars in really hot water and then unwrapped the ribbon as a single piece, with only a wee bit of residue still holding. Residue which came completely off with a light wipe of lacquer thinner...


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How old are these?
I found them at the bike shop where I worked from '78-'80, they were very old then.
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^ Commonly found on early 60s Raleigh road bikes, e.g., Gran Sport.
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