BDop DIY Kinlin wheelset or Shimano 6800 wheelset?
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Kinlin seams are as smooth as a baby's bottom. Never had any pulsing with perhaps 12 examples.
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That's a little why the decision is tough. Building the wheels is no big deal(It's my side job), but if the 6800 wheels use strictly proprietary spokes its a deal breaker.
I have some Stan's hoops that are tubeless, but I use tubes and Michelin Pro4 tires because I get them cheap(and the ride is phenomenal). Tubeless tires are expensive.
I have some Stan's hoops that are tubeless, but I use tubes and Michelin Pro4 tires because I get them cheap(and the ride is phenomenal). Tubeless tires are expensive.
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I don't care about replacement spoke cost, but I would hate to be stuck on a ride, unable to get home without help. J-bend spokes are at every shop, but proprietary spokes can be a Beotch.
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I have a set of XC-279's w/ CX-Rays but if I were buying now I'd get the new Kinlin XR-31t (or the BHS branded version.)
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Back when there was a sale on, I picked up a stack of Kinlin rims for $12 each shipped. I'm good for a while.
Where's Bdop been, anyway?
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That's a little why the decision is tough. Building the wheels is no big deal(It's my side job), but if the 6800 wheels use strictly proprietary spokes its a deal breaker.
I have some Stan's hoops that are tubeless, but I use tubes and Michelin Pro4 tires because I get them cheap(and the ride is phenomenal). Tubeless tires are expensive.
I have some Stan's hoops that are tubeless, but I use tubes and Michelin Pro4 tires because I get them cheap(and the ride is phenomenal). Tubeless tires are expensive.
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You just wrap the broken spoke around the one next to it, open up your caliper some and ride home. If you have a spoke wrench you can loosen the two opposing spokes some to true it up a little better.
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Try that with a triplet laced hub.
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How's the NDS spoke tension with Novatech hubs? Did you use a tensiometer when building your wheels?
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It's very rare for me to break a spoke, but it's a big deal when it happens to a NDS spoke on a triplet laced wheel. The brakes weren't the issue for me, but the wheel wouldn't pass through the seat/chain stays.
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One small negative is that like other kinlins using decent pads is a must. One of the sets I built was for my brother who is a cheapskate. His no-name pads caused squealing shard issues until swapped for some Koolstops.
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And fwiw, I used to build my wheels with either shimano or white industries hubs. I tried novatec for some cheap race wheels and now I use the one with the ABG almost exclusively. They roll great, have been durable and the ABG works as well as a TI cassette holder at stopping gauges.
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I've owned a set of the 7900 C24 wheels. I'm not hard on wheels but I had 2 spokes break. The first was a front. With only 16 spokes up front (like the Ultegras), the wheel went so far out of true that it was unrideable.
The second was a rear NDS spoke. I was able to get home but in both cases, the replacement spokes were expensive and took awhile to get.
I love the Shimano wheels. They ride really nice, are light, and very responsive. However, not a fan of any low spoke count wheels regardless of who makes them.
The second was a rear NDS spoke. I was able to get home but in both cases, the replacement spokes were expensive and took awhile to get.
I love the Shimano wheels. They ride really nice, are light, and very responsive. However, not a fan of any low spoke count wheels regardless of who makes them.
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I've owned a set of the 7900 C24 wheels. I'm not hard on wheels but I had 2 spokes break. The first was a front. With only 16 spokes up front (like the Ultegras), the wheel went so far out of true that it was unrideable.
The second was a rear NDS spoke. I was able to get home but in both cases, the replacement spokes were expensive and took awhile to get.
I love the Shimano wheels. They ride really nice, are light, and very responsive. However, not a fan of any low spoke count wheels regardless of who makes them.
The second was a rear NDS spoke. I was able to get home but in both cases, the replacement spokes were expensive and took awhile to get.
I love the Shimano wheels. They ride really nice, are light, and very responsive. However, not a fan of any low spoke count wheels regardless of who makes them.
novatech 24h very low-flange hub. very low-profile 24h carbon tubular rim, 24h double butted sapim laser spokes, 24 aluminum nipples. results? wheel is way out of true, but spins freely once quick release mechanism is opened. i didn't even have to touch things up by tightening adjacent same side spokes and loosening opposite side spokes. methinks the rim has a lot to do with this.
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I've built 2 wheelsets with 279s and all four rims were very true before building and had almost imperceptible seems. Much better than my A23s were out of the box in both respects. Another plus is at least compared to the XR300s I but for my wife the brake track is much taller. Makes for easier wheel swaps with different rims.
One small negative is that like other kinlins using decent pads is a must. One of the sets I built was for my brother who is a cheapskate. His no-name pads caused squealing shard issues until swapped for some Koolstops.
One small negative is that like other kinlins using decent pads is a must. One of the sets I built was for my brother who is a cheapskate. His no-name pads caused squealing shard issues until swapped for some Koolstops.
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Came out about 125 on the DS with park tensionmeter about 23-24 and then 17 on the NDS. I think I was around 70% of the DS and I think that is just fine. Normally I prefer the offset rear but in this case they came out sweet. I also now am a believer in not going too expensive on the hubs. The WI and DT swiss in my opinion are just overkill paying much for little or no gain. These novatecs are nice hub and look good too.
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Came out about 125 on the DS with park tensionmeter about 23-24 and then 17 on the NDS. I think I was around 70% of the DS and I think that is just fine. Normally I prefer the offset rear but in this case they came out sweet. I also now am a believer in not going too expensive on the hubs. The WI and DT swiss in my opinion are just overkill paying much for little or no gain. These novatecs are nice hub and look good too.
I agree with you about not paying more for hubs. I just don't see what you get for your money besides bling.
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Came out about 125 on the DS with park tensionmeter about 23-24 and then 17 on the NDS. I think I was around 70% of the DS and I think that is just fine. Normally I prefer the offset rear but in this case they came out sweet. I also now am a believer in not going too expensive on the hubs. The WI and DT swiss in my opinion are just overkill paying much for little or no gain. These novatecs are nice hub and look good too.