Watch out for the wildlife ... and travel in packs
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Watch out for the wildlife ... and travel in packs
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Not the first mtn cyclist to be attacked by a cat in the N. Bend area. Been ~2years since the last attack on two guys. Yeah, forested mountainous wilderness cycling has wildlife hazards. Thankfully, all the wild has not been hunted to extinction. Reintroducing wolves in the N. Cascades (and other places) has been prioritized. It's not just a human planet.
As a summer-time wilderness forest ranger for many years, hiking the Cascades 4 days/3 nights per week mostly alone = I never saw a cougar or a bear.
As a summer-time wilderness forest ranger for many years, hiking the Cascades 4 days/3 nights per week mostly alone = I never saw a cougar or a bear.
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Apparently the size difference between most men and women on a bike is enough to make a significant difference on how often the latter are attacked, oh, and the YT videos of ostriches chasing cyclists are addictive...
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I almost rode up the butt of a NM Cinnamon bear near Taos once. I always rode alone. Did a ton of exploring in the Santa Fe Nat’l Forest, specially the region west of SF called the Caja Del Rio. I was all over that place, only recently read that it’s inhabited by mountain lion, bear, coyote and wild horses. Never saw anything except cows.
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If I had you use my Road Bike to fight a Cougar off my buddy, he's not gonna make it!
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I once had a Long Horn running with me inside its barbwire fence. Then suddenly, NO FENCE! It had been knocked down by some late night driver. Still the Long Horn just continued to run with me inside the fence line as if it was there...
Around here Long Horns are pretty docile... Till they aren't...
Around here Long Horns are pretty docile... Till they aren't...
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I’ve been planning a ride in Hokkaido next summer, and bears have become a serious concern. As the human population has been shifting from the countryside to the cities, the rural areas are drying up. Hunting at one time was a popular pastime, but few people hunt anymore. The forests are gradually absorbing the areas where people used to live, and the lack of hunters has caused an explosion in the wildlife population, including bears. Last year saw a record of bear sightings and attacks, and fatalities are common. The number of boar attacks has also increased. Cyclists, runners, and hikers wear bells, as these are said to warn the bears and other wildlife of your approach, so you don’t roll up and surprise them.
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Wow... What kind of methods are allowed in Japan for you to defend yourself? I have heard they are pretty strict...
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Just be a badass and you’ll stand a better chance.
I actually alerted this bugger to my presence. He was kind enough to pose for a few photos before continuing on with his morning.
I actually alerted this bugger to my presence. He was kind enough to pose for a few photos before continuing on with his morning.
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In the cities you don’t need to defend yourself, there is basically no crime. Those who live in bear country can carry a rifle or shotgun, getting a gun permit in Japan is about has hard as getting a drivers license.
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Not the first mtn cyclist to be attacked by a cat in the N. Bend area. Been ~2years since the last attack on two guys. Yeah, forested mountainous wilderness cycling has wildlife hazards. Thankfully, all the wild has not been hunted to extinction. Reintroducing wolves in the N. Cascades (and other places) has been prioritized. It's not just a human planet.
As a summer-time wilderness forest ranger for many years, hiking the Cascades 4 days/3 nights per week mostly alone = I never saw a cougar or a bear.
As a summer-time wilderness forest ranger for many years, hiking the Cascades 4 days/3 nights per week mostly alone = I never saw a cougar or a bear.
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Meh, I live in the Los Angeles suburbs and its not unique to see a coyote walking along a street, especially in the early morning hours before and just about dawn. The local MUP has quite a few park areas next to it and you'll see coyotes along there on a regular basis if out on an early morning weekday ride.
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Meh, I live in the Los Angeles suburbs and its not unique to see a coyote walking along a street, especially in the early morning hours before and just about dawn. The local MUP has quite a few park areas next to it and you'll see coyotes along there on a regular basis if out on an early morning weekday ride.
We have had at least three bears come through Philly in the last six years. And they are only the ones we know about. Several years ago, I was returning from a weekend tour and had to take a nature break while riding an extremely popular rail-trail. I pulled off and wandered into a wooded area just off the trail where there was a creek. I saw bear tracks and pile of scat back there.
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I took this photo after the HUGE bear had departed. It was easily 600 lbs. Probably larger as it was September and had been fattening up for the winter.
When I get out of my tent before sunrise and went to toss some papers I saw the dumpsters had been raided. First I though it might have been raccoons, but then noticed the big pile of scat you can see on the left side of the photo. Walked back to the tent and noticed a smaller pile of scat about 15' from my site. Made coffee and ate my breakfast while keeping my head on a swivel. Packed up, walked the bike around to the front of the campground and leaned it up against a bench. As I was about to put on my helmet and turn on my lights, I heard the sound of bottles clinking. The bugger strolled out from between the dumpsters. We stared at each other from about 25' away. Not the way I wanted to start my morning. Fortunately, he realized what a badass I am and ambled off. This was in NW PA. The campground is very close to the Allegheny National Forest, which is a place know to have a bear or 100. Notice the mural in one of the dumpsters. It angers me when people don't take precautions in bear country. As a side note, the outside perimeter fence of FCI McKean is not far behind those dumpsters. That's the medium security prison where actor Wesley Snipes had served 3 year for tax evasion. Always bet on black (bears).
When I get out of my tent before sunrise and went to toss some papers I saw the dumpsters had been raided. First I though it might have been raccoons, but then noticed the big pile of scat you can see on the left side of the photo. Walked back to the tent and noticed a smaller pile of scat about 15' from my site. Made coffee and ate my breakfast while keeping my head on a swivel. Packed up, walked the bike around to the front of the campground and leaned it up against a bench. As I was about to put on my helmet and turn on my lights, I heard the sound of bottles clinking. The bugger strolled out from between the dumpsters. We stared at each other from about 25' away. Not the way I wanted to start my morning. Fortunately, he realized what a badass I am and ambled off. This was in NW PA. The campground is very close to the Allegheny National Forest, which is a place know to have a bear or 100. Notice the mural in one of the dumpsters. It angers me when people don't take precautions in bear country. As a side note, the outside perimeter fence of FCI McKean is not far behind those dumpsters. That's the medium security prison where actor Wesley Snipes had served 3 year for tax evasion. Always bet on black (bears).
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I live at 800' on Cougar Mt. Surrounded by a King County wildlands park. Bear, bobcat and coyote each spotted occasionally during daylight in our 'end of th road up ^' neighborhood. No cougars spotted in my 17 years here.
In 8 years of summer hiking with USFS @ N Bend region, there was not (to the best of my memory) a cougar attack on forest service lands in the I-90 or Hwy410 corridors. That's a lot of hikers, into a lot of wilderness terrain.
Maybe herds of deer or more plentiful smaller prey in the larger grassy fields in certain areas draw the cougars and bobcats - notably N Bend. I don't know. I always thought cougars, over years, covered a fairly wide range, but NBend has had several in recent years. Do I remember 3 in 5-ish years?
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I live at 800' on Cougar Mt. Surrounded by a King County wildlands park. Bear, bobcat and coyote each spotted occasionally during daylight in our 'end of th road up ^' neighborhood. No cougars spotted in my 17 years here.
In 8 years of summer hiking with USFS @ N Bend region, there was not (to the best of my memory) a cougar attack on forest service lands in the I-5 or Hwy410 corridors. That's a lot of hikers, into a lot of wilderness terrain.
Maybe herds of deer or more plentiful smaller prey in the larger grassy fields in certain areas draw the cougars and bobcats - notably N Bend. I don't know. I always thought cougars, over years, covered a fairly wide range, but NBend has had several in recent years. Do I remember 3 in 5-ish years?
In 8 years of summer hiking with USFS @ N Bend region, there was not (to the best of my memory) a cougar attack on forest service lands in the I-5 or Hwy410 corridors. That's a lot of hikers, into a lot of wilderness terrain.
Maybe herds of deer or more plentiful smaller prey in the larger grassy fields in certain areas draw the cougars and bobcats - notably N Bend. I don't know. I always thought cougars, over years, covered a fairly wide range, but NBend has had several in recent years. Do I remember 3 in 5-ish years?
I have hiked with my dog all the trails up and down I-90 to the pass multiple times and never seen any cats or bear. However the dog has stopped on trails 4-5 times and refused to proceed. I couldn’t see around the next corner or whatever, but chose instead to backtrack.
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The odds of being attacked are very low. On my home trails we have coyotes and a few bobcats which I don't consider a threat. Black bears are pretty scarce on the trails I use for my daily rides so not much of a concern. More bears on some other trails I ride now and then, but still not much concern. I guess if you were a worry wart you could worry about the wild hogs too.
Other places I have travelled to and ridden have had grizzlies and cougars, but still, not worth losing too much sleep over them. Plenty of other things more likely to kill you to worry about. Or better yet live without worry at least when riding your bike
Other places I have travelled to and ridden have had grizzlies and cougars, but still, not worth losing too much sleep over them. Plenty of other things more likely to kill you to worry about. Or better yet live without worry at least when riding your bike
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This guy was by the side of the Pine Creek Trail in PA. My cough startled him, causing him to jump into the creek. I nearly wipe out slamming on the brakes so I could fire up the camera and get some shots before he disappeared into the brush.
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started using bear bells on my bike. my late Dad had 2 he used while hiking. one which is just on a string & 2 bells on a leather strap. been experimenting where to hang them so that they jingle enough
helps ppl hear me coming on shared paths too. I can give them an extra jingle w/ my hand of nec.
helps ppl hear me coming on shared paths too. I can give them an extra jingle w/ my hand of nec.
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started using bear bells on my bike. my late Dad had 2 he used while hiking. one which is just on a string & 2 bells on a leather strap. been experimenting where to hang them so that they jingle enough
helps ppl hear me coming on shared paths too. I can give them an extra jingle w/ my hand of nec.
helps ppl hear me coming on shared paths too. I can give them an extra jingle w/ my hand of nec.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/hiking-...20dirt%20road.
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"Bear bells may be a popular item to put on your backpack, but they don’t effectively warn a bear you’re in the area. Bears won’t hear the bells until you’re too close. Yelling, clapping, and talking are more effective ways of alerting a bear to your presence."
https://www.nps.gov/articles/hiking-...20dirt%20road.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/hiking-...20dirt%20road.