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Old 04-04-18, 10:27 PM
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So, just how big a motor do I need?

Hi Folks

I'm 5'8" about 210lbs..Don't consider myself fat and in pretty good shape. I'm wondering how big a motor do I need to propel me along and perhaps some single track hills. I'm looking at this bike; 2018 CUBE Access Hybrid Race 500 29 Black Mint. 500watt motor.

I've also been looking at Biktrix Juggernaut which is 1000watt engine. Unfortunately about 6 hours away from where I live so going in for repairs would be a pain. Cube is local..

Up in Calgary.

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated

Cheers
Al
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250W can do the job, with 500W you'll be faster than trained cyclists on 250W pedelecs.
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Its a good question. A rider in good shape can do about 250 watts. So, putting a 250 watt motor on my bike is rather like riding a tandem with my brother (without his extra weight).

Most people are of the mind - the more the better. 1000 watts seems to be a good target without things getting too complicated or too expensive. That is kind of like a moped with a very very small motor, or kinda like a golf cart (not that I golf). Power = voltage x current. 500 vs 1000 watts is usually more current - which in effect is more torque. To be safe you can get a 1000 watt motor and run it at 500 watts giving you extra capacity when you need it. The benefit of a lower power motor is cost, weight, and of course it encourages you to share the work by pedalling. at 1000 watts and over - many people don't feel the need to pedal at all.
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If you like to pedal. look at Chas58's builds; light and fast.
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Even 250W constant power creates such a massive amount of force that you can jumpstart with it as well as outreaching 90% of the cars the first meters on an traffic light.
The Bosch motors deliver 75 Nm, which can even let you climb 20% elevation with >10kmph.
https://www.bosch-ebike.com/en/produ...?setLanguage=1
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30-75 depending on model, but this is easily misinterpreted - that figure is geared, it's at 1:1 ratio which is extremely slow!
Once you gear up the derailleur your wheel torque is slashed to a fraction of that. It's not a figure to compare to a hub motor when hubs are figured at wheel torque.

That said, the Bosch systems are said to be excellent, as far as low power mid drive systems go.
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