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Old 04-11-18, 05:14 PM
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? 2wd matched motors?

hi
newbie here..
after looking for several days for pair of front /rear hub motors, matched
smallest physical size
750-1000 watt...

as far as total actual build guides etc, I haven't found diy site with much content..

actual parts suggestions are great
build sites would be great..

thx
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Old 04-11-18, 07:03 PM
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I considered it briefly, but i don't see the point. It's a lot of weight for very little gain that i can see. What are you hoping for, from it?

A single, more powerful motor will arguably get you more speed, whilst a rear hub puts all the weight on the rear axle for climbing/accelerating. Handling balance, well that'd be a mid-mount but you're limited on power.

The small geared motors are under 500w, the bigger brushless motors are the way forward, but heavy.
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Look at endless sphere for some builds. As MMK states, there are probably better solutions. Be prepared to either have two dedicated, separate systems or a "splitter" so your battery can power both motors. Also, the motors don't need to be the same size. I tested a BH (Easy Motion) eMTB with a 250w motor up front and 350w in the rear. It was a hoot because the torque sensor was stuck and the thing flew up an 8 mile, 3000' ascent like a banshee. Descending rough terrain with two hub motors, not so fun.

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I made a two motor fat bike to get better traction in snow. Since it was winter, I didn't try to get fancy with controls. Brute force. I used two different 500W motors, two different controllers, two batteries, and two throttles. I only sent pedal assist to the rear motor. I would run the rear wheel off pedal assist and add throttle to the front as desired in heavy snow. I suppose that with practice, I could have managed to start the bike on dual throttles w/o falling over in the snow.

When the snow was gone, I had little interest in running a 75 pound ebike, so I took it back to RWD.
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Unless you have a purpose built dual motor controller, the home builder will need two controllers. While a single battery could run them, it has to be a battery that can meet the current demands of both motors. That's a big battery. I didn't have one that big, It should be possible to use a single throttle. Tie the controller grounds together and power the throttle off controller A. Split the throttle output and send it to controller B. If the motors/controllers are the same, the power delivery will be even.

One problem is having room on the handle bars for dual LCD screens/consoles. I used a simple LED console for my 2WD setup and all I really used was the throttle.
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Originally Posted by 2old
I tested a BH (Easy Motion) eMTB with a 250w motor up front and 350w in the rear.
Was that the Big Bud?

I saw Pedego are talking about a dual motor Stretch cargo ebike with front and rear 500W geared hub motors.
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Can't remember the model, but it was a 29er. Only had the one ride on it before we gave it back since it had a problem. Once going, the only way to cut the motor(s) was the brake levers AIR. I rode a Pedego "Stretch" (cargo) bike with a 500w rear hub motor and it was pretty quick with a top speed of 25+ mph and the ability to carry a lot of equipment (my friend used it to tote his voluminous camera array). Two motors would really enhance it.

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on YouTube I saw controller that supports dual motor etc.
one display.
everything said here about non-matched motors is exactly why I would want matched..

generally, hub motors are big and ugly..
I would want small, discrete.

noisy motors are deal breakers

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