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Old 05-21-18, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by robertorolfo
In the end, though, the only hope for sustained interest is really good writing, and unfortunately the quality of writing is dropping off almost as quickly as salaries for journalists (obviously they are correlated).

For me, the only magazine I continually look forward to is the New Yorker.
My wife is a huge fan of the writing in Outside magazine, and I've read a lot of the articles and have to agree.
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Good man, @robertorolfo. I grew up with The New Yorker in the house, and a couple of years ago, my subscription lapsed. I renewed it a couple of months ago, and I'm really happy about that. I read both print and online versions.
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Originally Posted by noglider
Good man, @robertorolfo. I grew up with The New Yorker in the house, and a couple of years ago, my subscription lapsed. I renewed it a couple of months ago, and I'm really happy about that. I read both print and online versions.
Believe it or not, despite growing up as a NY'er, I had never read the magazine until my 20's, when my (non-American) girlfriend at the time suggested it to me. I was one of those people that always confused it with New York magazine, and it was something of a revelation when I read it for the first time. I was also pretty embarrassed that someone from so far away from NY had to turn me on to it.

Perhaps only truly negative thing about my switch to commuting by bike is that I read it a little less now, since it was my exclusive reading material for the subway. It's an amazing publication with really gifted writers working there. Let's hope it never changes.
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Originally Posted by robertorolfo
Believe it or not, despite growing up as a NY'er, I had never read the magazine until my 20's, when my (non-American) girlfriend at the time suggested it to me. I was one of those people that always confused it with New York magazine, and it was something of a revelation when I read it for the first time. I was also pretty embarrassed that someone from so far away from NY had to turn me on to it.

Perhaps only truly negative thing about my switch to commuting by bike is that I read it a little less now, since it was my exclusive reading material for the subway. It's an amazing publication with really gifted writers working there. Let's hope it never changes.
Don't be embarrassed.

When The New Yorker was sold a few years ago, there was a concern, but it got even better. It really is pretty amazing, even if you're not from New York. I highly recommend The New Yorker Radio Hour Podcast, so you can listen to at least a little while bike commuting. It's actually two half-hour segments per week.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
Someone seems to enjoy pranking me with magazine subscriptions. I've had a year of Stereophile and now Golf Digest. Bicycling! is hardly bottom of the bird-cage by comparison.
Stereophile was okay once but High Fidelity is badly missed here.
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They buy the Whole Rodale publishing group or just the bike mag part?
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Old 05-21-18, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phyko
A paper magazine?!? What’s that??

Exactly.

Rodale Press used to be good...wayyyyyy back in the day.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I highly recommend The New Yorker Radio Hour Podcast, so you can listen to at least a little while bike commuting. It's actually two half-hour segments per week.
Thx for the reco, I will definitely give that a try!
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
They buy the Whole Rodale publishing group or just the bike mag part?
The complete Rodale Operation see Hearst Completes Acquisition of Rodale Inc. Magazine Media Brands | Hearst


And is flipping the publishing group, see https://nypost.com/2018/01/09/hearst...-random-house/


And https://www.mcall.com/business/mc-biz...109-story.html

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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia



Exactly.

Rodale Press used to be good...wayyyyyy back in the day.
Bicycling Magazine was never good for anything but promoting their advertisers and recycling the same old, same old nutrition malarkey.
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Originally Posted by noglider
I grew up with The New Yorker in the house
So did I. Both my father and grandfather were English teachers, and considered it the only magazine with literary content worth paying for.

Now get this. My grandfather actually lived the breathed the English language. He wrote textbooks on the English language for schools. He'd get the New Yorker, and then proceed to mark it up like a submitted school paper, noting all corrections that needed to be made. Then he'd mail back to the New Yorker. That's cajones.
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That's awesome!
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I miss Bicycle Times already.
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Originally Posted by AlmostGreenGuy
So did I. Both my father and grandfather were English teachers, and considered it the only magazine with literary content worth paying for.

Now get this. My grandfather actually lived the breathed the English language. He wrote textbooks on the English language for schools. He'd get the New Yorker, and then proceed to mark it up like a submitted school paper, noting all corrections that needed to be made. Then he'd mail back to the New Yorker. That's cajones.
Cool story about your grandpa. I learned English as a second language and was an English Lit. major in college. Correct grammar is important.

BTW, the word is “cojones” and not “cajones.” Cajones means “drawers” ( where you keep or store things).
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Bicycling Magazine was never good for anything but promoting their advertisers and recycling the same old, same old nutrition malarkey.
i agree. Rodale Press, however, had some good publications.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia

BTW, the word is “cojones” and not “cajones.” Cajones means “drawers” ( where you keep or store things).
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Bicycling Magazine was never good for anything but promoting their advertisers and recycling the same old, same old nutrition malarkey.
I don't agree. Back in the days of Frank Beto and John Allen (early to mid80s), it had informative articles. I learned how to build wheels out of Bicycling in 1986 and still use the same technique today. I learned about gearing from Frank Beto. I'll agree that it is mostly useless now but at one point it did have good writing, good articles and provided good information.
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I fondly remember reading Bicycling back in the 1980s, as a teenager, back when there was no internet and that's all we had. It was a great mag back then.
Somehow in the last year I got a free subscription, maybe from buying something at Performance Bike. What a piece of junk this magazine has devolved into...more rubble from the internet destroying print. I guess that's what many print magazines are today, just glorified ads. The "editorial" reviews on bikes and gear are a joke, all puff pieces with a few sentences and lots of pics, to sell ads to the manufacturers who place the ads. The rest of it looks like Mens Health magazine with all these eye-rolling articles like "get ripped quads in 7 days!" As others have written, I can page through this rag in about 15 minutes. I cannot believe such a magazine is actually worth $225M. I guess the business model for these mags is now all about ads and not about circulation/subscription revenue.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
BTW, the word is “cojones” and not “cajones.” Cajones means “drawers” ( where you keep or store things).
That's good to know! I didn't notice the error, but I should have put that together. I used to live in the well-named city of El Cajon (it's a flat valley boxed in by surrounding hills)
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Originally Posted by RubeRad
I used to live in the well-named city of El Cajon (it's a flat valley boxed in by surrounding hills)
Cajon is also a kind of drum that looks like a box, popular in traditional Cuban music.

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i agree

Originally Posted by bigbenaugust
I miss Bicycle Times already.
i agree whole heartedly best bicycling magazine that no longer exists.
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I fondly remember reading Bicycling back in the 1980s, as a teenager, back when there was no internet and that's all we had. It was a great mag back then...
Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Bicycling Magazine was never good for anything but promoting their advertisers and recycling the same old, same old nutrition malarkey.
Originally Posted by cyccommute
I don't agree. Back in the days of Frank Beto and John Allen (early to mid 80s), it had informative articles. I learned how to build wheels out of Bicycling in 1986 and still use the same technique today. I learned about gearing from Frank Beto.

I'll agree that it is mostly useless now but at one point it did have good writing, good articles and provided good information
I also looked forward to each new issue of Bicycling Magazine in the 1970’s and 80’s, as I was avidly getting into the activity. I can’t exactly remember the decline, but I realized it had “jumped the shark” with the monthly Style Man feature.

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