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Old 03-26-20, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by iab View Post
Lovey bike!

I do have a question being a person shorter than you. Why the raised top tube/clamp and seatpost, why not a larger frame?
Tx!

So we talked at length about it and this is the result, it will be rideable for longer than full size and its almost at the top of my range as is.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
Congratulations Van!
I'd love to see some lighter photos of the details; lugs, fork crown, cable stops, etc. Maybe sometime when you get it out in the sun. That beautiful paint should really pop in the sunlight!
I like the look of the straight pin seat post and clamp but nlerner is certainly right about the squirrely nature of that type of setup.
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Tx Brent!

Lots more pics coming and yes it is a very different color in any different light. Many more pics coming and the SP is probably a placeholder but I will be employing extraordinary tactics to overcome the challenge.

Going to polish a Campy 2 bolt soon for backup.
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Originally Posted by mhespenheide View Post
Digging it! Who did the stem?
Tx!

Stem is VO, spacer setup by me with help from @gugie and Jamie Swan.
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Originally Posted by tricky View Post
Congrats on the new bike! It's beautiful. It looks like a custom bike is a near necessity with your stature. Is this your first custom?
Yep, sort of, first built for me, have others that were not but could have been.

This was designed from two of the others that ride like they were built for me.
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Originally Posted by nlerner View Post
Cool! The straight-pin steel seat post and clamp throw me for a bit of a loop, both aesthetically and because those clamps have a tendency to loosen up.
me also..... overall beautiful build
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Tx!

So we talked at length about it and this is the result, it will be rideable for longer than full size and its almost at the top of my range as is.
similar to my thinking if i were to ever get a custom (getting closer kid will graduate college in may) also in my mind a practical reason in addition to aethetics for a quill stem
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Congrats! Beautiful bike.
How is Andy?
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Congrats. That's a fantastic "forever" bike. I like the mix of old & new. My only quibble is the seat post, for the reasons stated above, but that's a minor complaint. Looking forward to seeing more photos once you get it out on the road!
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
Going to polish a Campy 2 bolt soon for backup.
Simichrome that Campy 2 bolt, Van!

And if it were me, I’d cross the shift cables under the DT so that the housings from the brifters won’t scuff the HT

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This is super pretty, nice build. Very cool. Love the lugs.
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Originally Posted by SJX426 View Post
Congrats! Beautiful bike.
How is Andy?
Tx!

Funny you should ask, he's fine but there is an addendum coming.
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Please see the addendum at the very beginning of the thread.
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Simichrome that Campy 2 bolt, Van!

And if it were me, Id cross the shift cables under the DT so that the housings from the brifters wont scuff the HT
I may revisit, I fought with them for a half a day, they are very uncooperative and I was underskilled, they may be a bit long but shortening them seemed like it would make it worse, that was the best I could do at the time.
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Originally Posted by Mr. 66 View Post
What a beauty! What is the metrics size and angles?
Tx!

I'll get them although they changed a bit toward the end when I asked to slope the TT a bit after thinking about it so we ended up with 1 degree or about 15 mm drop at the back.

We talked about it originally but I wasn't thinking right, would have done 2 or 3 degrees maybe, didn't want modern looking with a lot.
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Love this. I also raised an eyebrow over the seat post choice but what the heck - you do you, man. It's a beauty.
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Originally Posted by merziac View Post
I may revisit, I fought with them for a half a day, they are very uncooperative and I was underskilled, they may be a bit long but shortening them seemed like it would make it worse, that was the best I could do at the time.
a bit of helicopter tape can protect that new looking forever paint. I can send you a few inches if you'd like. I use a couple pieces at the head tube and one at the seat stay on my forever bike.

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Originally Posted by ascherer View Post
Love this. I also raised an eyebrow over the seat post choice but what the heck - you do you, man. It's a beauty.
Tx man it was quite an exercise, I had several little pita things that went wrong, right and plenty of in between, sorted some, reconciled some and got lucky with some.

The SP was a no brainer for me and now that it has garnered this much attention I will find a way to make it work.

Going to get to work on a 2 bolt as well.
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Originally Posted by Classtime View Post
a bit of helicopter tape can protect that new looking forever paint. I can send you a few inches if you'd like. I use a couple pieces at the head tube and one at the seat stay on my forever bike.

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I'll take you up on that, pm coming.
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Not my personal cup of tea, but clearly you've thought this all through and have done a top-notch job of pulling this together flawlessly.

Here's to many, many miles and years of enjoyment.
Tx!

It was far from flawless but I managed to slog through without doing any damage so far.
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Originally Posted by obrentharris View Post
Congratulations Van!
I'd love to see some lighter photos of the details; lugs, fork crown, cable stops, etc. Maybe sometime when you get it out in the sun. That beautiful paint should really pop in the sunlight!
I like the look of the straight pin seat post and clamp but nlerner is certainly right about the squirrely nature of that type of setup.
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Here are a couple more quick ones for now.

Anybody think that binder bolt will ever fail or not be able to secure a post?











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similar to my thinking if i were to ever get a custom (getting closer kid will graduate college in may) also in my mind a practical reason in addition to aethetics for a quill stem
No way in H**L this would ever not have a quill stem, that and Campy HS are the only way this would ever be.

Threadless, cartridge, disposable, cookie cutter "improvements" mentality are a big part of why we are in the multiple predicaments we're in and we ain't getting out of them anytime soon, nevermind how fugly much of it is.
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WOW, nice you got it right. That has to be the most overall proportionally pleasing large frame I've ever seen. A large frame that doesn't end up looking like an awkward compromise in the final build. Bravo, well done!
Tx!

The magic of it was all Dave, he has probably built a more diverse range than many, this was a cakewalk for him, he knows exactly what he is doing as we can see here.

I did do a smart thing by taking the two bikes I did for the fitting that Andy told me to get (no he doesn't do them himself ), I took the BG that is only a 60 and some a bit odd criterium like geometry and the big silver Merz that is a 66. Dave was amazed that I had both of them set up so that I settled in to the exact same position on each while riding despite them being so different, he said that allowed him to zero in on a sweet spot that can be hard to find and is not always what you would think it would be. Both the bikes fly down the road for me very well yet are very different.
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Congrats! Definetely a head turn, er headset turner. Crowns and lugs, paint- handsome. More pics ;")

Rubber is right on the deck, no mudguards for this one.

Tossing thought on the seatpost, perhaps J&L to match the calipers and go silver. I have both in black and other in silver. The silver can polish up.

Seller in Taiwan might also work with you on finish and exra length, should that matter. I hadn't been pleased with the looks of clamp part, sent pics and complaint. They were very fast to respond and sent another.

Looking forward to the ride report-


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Checking out all the unique details is entertaining!

Did you mention who made that cool stem?
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Checking out all the unique details is entertaining!

Did you mention who made that cool stem?
Tx!

Its a VO.
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