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Guerciotti
So there's this advert. https://www.troc-velo.com/photos-vel...-1-2203173.htm
Besides the fact they have a lot of admirers and are in one might say the second division of italian bikes, It's a good price and a good size. I have a couple more photos, and the chap says he bought it new in '83.
Any opinions please? Paint looks rough I must say.
Besides the fact they have a lot of admirers and are in one might say the second division of italian bikes, It's a good price and a good size. I have a couple more photos, and the chap says he bought it new in '83.
Any opinions please? Paint looks rough I must say.
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The age is in the ballpark, though maybe a bit young. 1983 was the last year for those decals while the Portacatena dropout indicates it is no older than the 1978 model year. The crankset is 1978-1983 Shimano 600EX while the derailleurs and shift levers are 1984-1987 Shimano New 600EX but likely 1984-1985 based on the friction shift levers. The headset is Dura-Ace EX (1978-1984). I see a Columbus decal on the forks, investment cast brake bridge and tangs on the brake bridge, so it's likely full Columbus SL. As noted, the cosmetic condition is on the rough side but at that price it's still a good deal.
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Thank you @T-Mar! Good news on a night when certain politicians over here have only their best interests at heart. Does the serial number mean anything or are they typically european?
I don't need another project, but I think if the paint is that bad, it may get something new. How about the Italian flag?
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I don't need another project, but I think if the paint is that bad, it may get something new. How about the Italian flag?
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100 Euro and your size? What are you waiting for? Paint would be considered typical of the era. The Guerciottis imported by 10 Speed Drive to the US were sent bare and painted over here. There may have been some import duty advantages also. I have owned three, all with different tubing and they are nice rides.
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Thank you @T-Mar! Good news on a night when certain politicians over here have only their best interests at heart. Does the serial number mean anything or are they typically european?
I don't need another project, but I think if the paint is that bad, it may get something new. How about the Italian flag?
The knowledge base on here never ceases to amaze me...
I don't need another project, but I think if the paint is that bad, it may get something new. How about the Italian flag?
The knowledge base on here never ceases to amaze me...
do note that in the Wizard of Oz, the witch melted when she got wet. There is a cause and effect and avoidance for you.
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It's in. I didn't realise I was getting a set of Normandy 79s on Mavic black tubs with a pair of brand new Vittorias in to the bargain.
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Of course, thank you... Bearings are still smooth as silk
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Seatpost is 27.0 so I think thats still in line with SL? The one it came with was 27.2, partly machined down to 26.8ish.
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Thank you @T-Mar! ...Does the serial number mean anything or are they typically european?...
27.0 mm, if correct, would be consistent with Columbus SP. Many Italian builders of the era routinely transitioned from SL to SP once the frames reached around 58 cm, on the basis that taller riders were heavier and stronger, and required heavier gauge tubing.
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Ahh interesting! That makes me want to strip it and weigh it... I just checked the post in the Faggin, and sure enough it's a 27.2.
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Well there's a thing. A small flake of paint missing aroused my interest. Some paint stripper and 15 long minutes later:
I think my rear is chromed...
I think my rear is chromed...
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expectations?
Base metal left sandblasted for better paint adhesion is commonly done,
so chrome wont be shiny, because the base metal was not polished
before going into the plating bath..
BTW I used some of my Machine shop skills , and used an adjustable reamer , (LBS owned)
and shaved out 0.1mm from my Bridgestone RB1 Frame Seat tube wall
and so went from 27.0 to 27.2 diameter,
and stopped as soon as my 27.2 seat post , on hand, fit..
...
so chrome wont be shiny, because the base metal was not polished
before going into the plating bath..
BTW I used some of my Machine shop skills , and used an adjustable reamer , (LBS owned)
and shaved out 0.1mm from my Bridgestone RB1 Frame Seat tube wall
and so went from 27.0 to 27.2 diameter,
and stopped as soon as my 27.2 seat post , on hand, fit..
...
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It doesn't look it in the pic but where the paint has flaked, it's very shiny! I'm having a debate with myself whether to strip it and take care of the surface rust or protect it and ride it as is...
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