What is your solution for riding in a spot with low reception?
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Everyone realizes that 30 years ago that was not a problem. There wasnt such a thing. And yet since I was there at the time I did not read of news reports that people got lost and died in the wilderness.
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A good map which shows backroads, trails and unmaintained roads or a Topo map is all that a person needs to navigate their way through unknown terrain. Google maps is good too... I have never used GPS because I find them annoying and confusing. A GPS doesn't guarantee that a person won't get lost and find their way out...30 years ago I was involved in wilderness survival and did a lot of trips into unknown terrain. The only thing we used back then was a topo map and compass and no other gimmicks...I've also ridden my bike through many unfamiliar areas that I have never been to before and I only used a paper map. Never got lost yet...Humans have been navigating their way around the world for thousands of years without any electronic gadgets and today people can't even take a short drive to their local Wallmart without being connected to their GPS or satellite.
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Until it doesn't.
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I wonder if more people are going farther afield than they might if they had to depend on their map reading and navigation skills. With a modern smartphone, you don't have to know where you're going, because it will tell you, and it will tell you where you are and how to get back.
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It doesn't matter how easy and convenient a modern smartphone is.....As far as I can remember I have always enjoyed reading and looking at maps. Reading a map is like reading a good interesting book. I don't care about some electronic gadget telling me how to navigate my way.
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I work with a few of those people. I dispatch service technicians all over the Chicago area, and there are a few of them who can't find their way past the the end of the street we're located on.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
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A good map which shows backroads, trails and unmaintained roads or a Topo map is all that a person needs to navigate their way through unknown terrain. Google maps is good too... I have never used GPS because I find them annoying and confusing. A GPS doesn't guarantee that a person won't get lost and find their way out...30 years ago I was involved in wilderness survival and did a lot of trips into unknown terrain. The only thing we used back then was a topo map and compass and no other gimmicks...I've also ridden my bike through many unfamiliar areas that I have never been to before and I only used a paper map. Never got lost yet...Humans have been navigating their way around the world for thousands of years without any electronic gadgets and today people can't even take a short drive to their local Wallmart without being connected to their GPS or satellite.
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Seriously, if the use of a cell phone gives a person a sense of security to venture out further than they otherwise might go, who the hell are you to say that's a bad thing? I know I'm more likely to play a round of "where does this road go" if I know I'll be able to GPS my way out of any maze I get myself into. And no, I really don't want to start using paper maps again, they were always a PITA.
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That is where learning Orienteering , in or out of the Scouts , is good education .. finding way-points with Map & Compass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
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- take pictures to remember sights.
- take pictures to show others.
- receive phone calls for life outside of cycling. Calls for work or home life for example.
- update someone on location for setting plans after cycling.
- Google maps for location and directions at unonown intersections.
- and of course your favorite...music!
All are completely reasonable and there is no need to snidely comment that someone who chooses to carry a phone is addicted to social media or is on a boring ride.
- take pictures to show others.
- receive phone calls for life outside of cycling. Calls for work or home life for example.
- update someone on location for setting plans after cycling.
- Google maps for location and directions at unonown intersections.
- and of course your favorite...music!
All are completely reasonable and there is no need to snidely comment that someone who chooses to carry a phone is addicted to social media or is on a boring ride.
Today, riding in an area without signal is no big deal, all you have to do if you have an issue is crawl or drag yourself one block to the next Starbucks.
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That is where learning Orienteering , in or out of the Scouts , is good education .. finding way-points with Map & Compass.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orienteering
This is like where people lament that the ubiquitous use of electronics for communication has led to people not learning how to write cursive. To which I reply "and?" New technologies have always caused some skills to wither.
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I have a coworker who doesn't like taking extended rides because he doesn't hold the map in his head, so he's afraid if he misses a turn he'll be lost. And he has a Garmin!
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I do carry my phone in the event I get lost or need something. But it doesn't control my life.
I also turn on location sharing so my wife knows where I am and can tell her BF to get out before I get hone
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