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Old 08-10-20, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Went grocery shopping. Got to the cashier. Realized that my wallet was still at home, sitting on a bookshelf, drying out from yesterday.
Luckily you live in the friendly mid-west so they let you take your groceries and pay next time. Right?
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Luckily you live in the friendly mid-west so they let you take your groceries and pay next time. Right?
Whole Paycheck don't fall for that one.
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We were supposed to take Heidi out to LA this week for college. I had Weds/Thurs/Friday blocked off for vacation so we could all go together. She will now be a college freshman from her bedroom,
Sad!
I have a daughter graduating HS this year off to either UW or UM next year per the plan. I do really wonder if it makes sense for Freshmen to attend college remotely and may be better off waiting a year. I just don't see how the value of a prestigious or big name university gets translated through online learning. Relationships with others will be limited, figuring out how to navigate university won't truly happen. Hate to delay growth and graduating, but it would seem that there would be some argument to do a different approach. On the otherhand depending on the major, many of those first year classes are just getting pre-reqs and fillers out of the way.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
Regarding the second question, the memory system for events, facts, names, etc. has a storage and a retrieval component. Retrieval, which involves focused brain work, is a harder task than storage, which happens almost automatically in many cases. As for remembering lost info when "properly stimulated," I suppose the extreme case is things you once saw or heard fleetingly looking familiar when seen again, so I guess it's pretty much true.
One depressing thing as I get older is thinking about the increasing number of events I don't remember. Like, last week the family was reminiscing about my sister's graduation at a boarding school hundreds of miles away. I drove out there with a friend, the only time he was ever there. You'd think an unusual weekend like that would stick out in my memory, but I barely remember any of it.
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Originally Posted by SwtBadger View Post
I have a daughter graduating HS this year off to either UW or UM next year per the plan. I do really wonder if it makes sense for Freshmen to attend college remotely and may be better off waiting a year. I just don't see how the value of a prestigious or big name university gets translated through online learning. Relationships with others will be limited, figuring out how to navigate university won't truly happen. Hate to delay growth and graduating, but it would seem that there would be some argument to do a different approach. On the otherhand depending on the major, many of those first year classes are just getting pre-reqs and fillers out of the way.
Waiting a year may make a lot of sense.

We suggested this but USC won't let incoming freshman defer for a year, so she would have to reapply against a larger applicant pool with no guarantee of acceptance.

We are still hoping she can head out there for the spring semester.
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Would you pay $5/month for an MUP with none of the above?
I’d pay $1/ 20 miles for smooth tarmac with some terrain and twists, no cars.
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Originally Posted by SwtBadger View Post
I have a daughter graduating HS this year off to either UW or UM next year per the plan. I do really wonder if it makes sense for Freshmen to attend college remotely and may be better off waiting a year. I just don't see how the value of a prestigious or big name university gets translated through online learning. Relationships with others will be limited, figuring out how to navigate university won't truly happen. Hate to delay growth and graduating, but it would seem that there would be some argument to do a different approach. On the otherhand depending on the major, many of those first year classes are just getting pre-reqs and fillers out of the way.
Personally, I would have benefitted from a gap year anyway to be broken of my high school laziness. The problem is I don’t know what can be done productively in a gap year now while still being safe.
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In which country?
Yours
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There is, particularly using functional MRI. For instance, my old fellowship supervisor has been interested in the difference in brain mechanisms between voluntary and involuntary movement and found that it's not that clear when you begin to look at people with unreal or "functional" movement disorders that they sincerely believe are real and involuntary. Posthypnotic suggestion probably works in a similar way.

Regarding the second question, the memory system for events, facts, names, etc. has a storage and a retrieval component. Retrieval, which involves focused brain work, is a harder task than storage, which happens almost automatically in many cases. As for remembering lost info when "properly stimulated," I suppose the extreme case is things you once saw or heard fleetingly looking familiar when seen again, so I guess it's pretty much true.
Deja vu all over again
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
My MUP must be the best one out there, because the few walkers I encounter are just not issues.
There is one in Indianapolis that is unrideable. Even after saying you would like to pass, nobody makes a move.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
One depressing thing as I get older is thinking about the increasing number of events I don't remember. Like, last week the family was reminiscing about my sister's graduation at a boarding school hundreds of miles away. I drove out there with a friend, the only time he was ever there. You'd think an unusual weekend like that would stick out in my memory, but I barely remember any of it.
I experience the same thing, only worse 'cause I'm older. No one knows much about how "natural" forgetting works, but it may be necessary in some way.

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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post
I’d pay $1/ 20 miles for smooth tarmac with some terrain and twists, no cars.
Per ride?
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We were supposed to take Heidi out to LA this week for college. I had Weds/Thurs/Friday blocked off for vacation so we could all go together. She will now be a college freshman from her bedroom, but I chose to take the days off anyway so maybe I can challenge Bah Humbug for mileage.

However, the forecast says heavy rain expected Weds/Thurs/Friday so I may just catch up on my reading and/or Continuing Medical Education.

Sad!
Gotta be a bite living in your bedroom at home instead of the dorm in SoCal
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I’d pay $1/ 20 miles for smooth tarmac with some terrain and twists, no cars.
But you already have that at your race track
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I experience the same thing, only worse 'cause I'm older. No one knows much about how "natural" forgetting works, but it be necessary in some way.
Concussion makes it much worse. Short term and long term loss
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Concussion makes it much worse. Short term and long term loss
I had it just as bad before I got bumped. Concussion isn't supposed to do much to real long-term, biographical, memory. In fact, that stays intact pretty far into Alzheimer disease.

My father, who had bad vascular disease and then had his blood pressure repeatedly lowered by dialysis (i.e., negligence and stone cold ignorance on the part of his physicians), lost biographical memory and actually half forgot who he was in his last years.
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Waiting a year may make a lot of sense.

We suggested this but USC won't let incoming freshman defer for a year, so she would have to reapply against a larger applicant pool with no guarantee of acceptance.

We are still hoping she can head out there for the spring semester.
I call that theft. I hope the spring semester works out.
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Well looks like things have mostly blown by here at work, my house is still under a tornado warning for the next few minutes I think.

Sirens blew and we all staged by the designated weather shelters, but nobody actually hunkered down that I know of.

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Originally Posted by SwtBadger View Post
I have a daughter graduating HS this year off to either UW or UM next year per the plan. I do really wonder if it makes sense for Freshmen to attend college remotely and may be better off waiting a year. I just don't see how the value of a prestigious or big name university gets translated through online learning. Relationships with others will be limited, figuring out how to navigate university won't truly happen. Hate to delay growth and graduating, but it would seem that there would be some argument to do a different approach. On the otherhand depending on the major, many of those first year classes are just getting pre-reqs and fillers out of the way.
Excellent points. I think you're right about freshman year. IIRC, most classes were large with little or no interaction with the profs. What you did get was separation from home and getting to live independently in a fairly sheltered environment, and you met a bunch of people. The ones whose education will be taking a real hit are the upperclassmen who would be taking upper level courses with much smaller classes and more interaction with the profs. And for those in the Sciences, no labs!
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha View Post
I had it just as bad before I got bumped. Concussion isn't supposed to do much to real long-term, biographical, memory. In fact, that stays intact pretty far into Alzheimer disease.

My father, who had bad vascular disease and then had his blood pressure repeatedly lowered by dialysis (i.e., negligence and stone cold ignorance on the part of his physicians), lost biographical memory and actually half forgot who he was in his last years.
My Dad had an amazing memory into his 90s, but when Mom passed it was almost like he'd been holding onto it to take care of her (like remembering what pills she took and when, doctors appointments, etc.) by the time he died at 100, dementia seemed to have largely un-written most of his whole history.
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Gotta be a bite living in your bedroom at home instead of the dorm in SoCal
Yeah, only benefit is mom’s cooking is superior to dorm cafeteria food.
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Agree. There is a MUP that is a mile from my house. I have not gone on it since March and really avoid it unless the weather is rainy. On a typical day, it's full of weaving bicycles along with families walking 4 astride, kids on trikes, walkers, joggers, roller bladers, dog-walkers, etc.
Sounds like a properly used MUP. You just have to lower your expectations on those. take a cyclecross or gravel bike to dodge around the kids and expect to not get any decent pace or effort. Just put some music on and cruise along.
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I just found an ornamental tree in my front yard got blown over. I've righted it and tied it off. Now, it's storming again.
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My Dad had an amazing memory into his 90s, but when Mom passed it was almost like he'd been holding onto it to take care of her (like remembering what pills she took and when, doctors appointments, etc.) by the time he died at 100, dementia seemed to have largely un-written most of his whole history.
I have heard that story before and I think something similar happened to my own father, but he was pretty rough already.

Loss of a spouse is a major risk factor for vascular disease and probably also for Alzheimer-type dementia. Unsurprisingly, an immune/inflammatory mechanism is suspected.
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