Titanium for a gravel/road bike?
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Something that rides a lot like steel, can be designed a bit lighter and doesn't corrode as easily sounds great. I doubt I'll ever be able to pick a geometry and set of features I know I'll like long enough to have it made in Ti, but the appeal is clear to me.
I wouldn't kick one out of bed, but if I had a new one handed to me I'd be as likely to sell it as ride it.
I wouldn't kick one out of bed, but if I had a new one handed to me I'd be as likely to sell it as ride it.
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I skimmed the rest of the posts but the title got my attention as it was something I'd been looking at ... there's a slightly older and absolutely lovely guy I've known for a few years and has been into his cycling forever ... way before I became serious about it.
I bumped into him the other day and asked what he rode and he said gravel bike not expecting me to know what it was and I reeled off the list I was looking at with a view to buying, he's an expensive Ti and also a £600 Boardman CX and his advice was don't waste your money .... the £600 is just as good.
Now I'm sure there are differences but at the end of the day if you just want it to do a job ... that said we all know how addictive this hobby can be and unless you've tried it you'll never be content much as he obviously did.
I bumped into him the other day and asked what he rode and he said gravel bike not expecting me to know what it was and I reeled off the list I was looking at with a view to buying, he's an expensive Ti and also a £600 Boardman CX and his advice was don't waste your money .... the £600 is just as good.
Now I'm sure there are differences but at the end of the day if you just want it to do a job ... that said we all know how addictive this hobby can be and unless you've tried it you'll never be content much as he obviously did.
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Y'all know this thread is over a year old, right?
The big negative on Ti is the difficulty in finding one for test riding.
I do chuckle at the comments “my TI rides better than…”
Its hard to compare Ti to carbon, as you can make carbon anything you want. Plenty of post say that “my TI is more comfortable than my carbon” yet until recently the fad in carbon was to make them super stiff. Now the fad is to make Carbon comfortable (thank goodness). And yes, there are TI bikes out there that are way too stiff. There is so much more to bike design than just material.
I would like to see a TI bike that is more comfortable than something like a carbon Niner RLT RDO.
I’m tempted by a “frame for a lifetime” claim but I have plenty of really nice older frames that are just obsolete (due to component requirements) even though they are in great shape.
The big negative on Ti is the difficulty in finding one for test riding.
I do chuckle at the comments “my TI rides better than…”
Its hard to compare Ti to carbon, as you can make carbon anything you want. Plenty of post say that “my TI is more comfortable than my carbon” yet until recently the fad in carbon was to make them super stiff. Now the fad is to make Carbon comfortable (thank goodness). And yes, there are TI bikes out there that are way too stiff. There is so much more to bike design than just material.
I would like to see a TI bike that is more comfortable than something like a carbon Niner RLT RDO.
I’m tempted by a “frame for a lifetime” claim but I have plenty of really nice older frames that are just obsolete (due to component requirements) even though they are in great shape.
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imo the argument should be Ti vs 853 rather than carbon. Both frames will be obsolete before the 853 frame rust out. I had no interest in steel until I rode the 853 RLT.
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after riding the same wheels, same group, same tires back to back RLT RDO and the RLT 853..... the 853 is far more comfortable.
imo the argument should be Ti vs 853 rather than carbon. Both frames will be obsolete before the 853 frame rust out. I had no interest in steel until I rode the 853 RLT.
imo the argument should be Ti vs 853 rather than carbon. Both frames will be obsolete before the 853 frame rust out. I had no interest in steel until I rode the 853 RLT.
Also, Ti made it's name in the bike scene when the material was produced exclusively for aerospace. As such, tolerances were very strict. Nowadays, tubes are made specifically for bike frames and the need for 100 percent accurate composition has gone down brought quality with it. Pretty important when considering Ti. Ti isn't forgiving of less than ideal frame building techniques, tools and environments. These are some reasons why we see cracked titanium frames all over the forums. Ti is only a lifetime frame when built with proper tooling, environment, welding etc. Otherwise a mass produced steel frame will outlast it and probably even the owner given proper maintenance (frame saver every year). If I had less than 3-4 grand to spend on a frame, Ti would not be not be it. Perhaps a Waterford Reynolds Stainless would be nice at that price point. For me when it comes to Ti, its top end (Seven, Moots, Firefly etc) or nothing.
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I realize this is old, but wondering how you like you are liking your Litespeed gravel after a couple years?