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Old 01-16-20, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Here's an unusual one near Chattanooga this morning: a guy was killed at this intersection, but he was not in the truck when the train hit it. Details of his whereabouts not given.

https://newschannel9.com/news/local/...ursday-morning

What are the railroad liability rules when the crossing bars are not down?

First of all, unless their was a witness, how does the policeman know the arms were not down at the time of the collision. Next, it sounds like he stalled out on the tracks and got out of the cab. Unless it was bang-bang, the train was likely not close enough to activate the arms and flashers when he stalled out. When they finally were activated by the approaching train, the trailer would likely have prevented them from coming down. (Notice the cab on the other side of the tracks. The cab was on the tracks with the trailer at a spot that would have been underneath the path of the near arm.) The far arm clearly activated. You can see it down in the photo. Hopefully, the lead locomotive was fitted with a video recorder. Also, there is likely a "black box" for the crossing protection that will indicate whether it activated.

In any event, it depends. If everything was inspected, tested and maintained properly, there should be no additional liability risk. Ultimately, I think it doesn't matter in this case. Sounds like the guy stalled out well before the train arrived. No amount of crossing protection could have prevented the collision. As mentioned in the article, dude should have been nowhere near the vehicle. Get out and get back. Way back.
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize
I bought my first polycarbonate(plastic) water bottle cage a couple days ago. I have yet to mount it.
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Could this be the first step toward a soulless plastic bike?
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
In the meantime, these Shimano mechanicals and 5800 levers/shifters stop fine.
How do I edit this and put a hydro caliper over Jack's face?

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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Sounds like the guy stalled out well before the train arrived. No amount of crossing protection could have prevented the collision. As mentioned in the article, dude should have been nowhere near the vehicle. Get out and get back. Way back.
This is what the report implied. Makes me wonder if he was impaired or this was a weird suicide. It only takes a few seconds to run away from the truck.
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seedsbelize 's bicycle will lose its soul when he hits 12,001 posts.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
Yup, those'd be posts. Unfortunately, it limits you to post-mount calipers (if you have a flat-mount frame, you can use either flat-mount calipers or adapted post-mounts) and Shimano seems to have chosen flat-mount as their default caliper style (all of the current hydro groups are flat).

You can still go Shimano by buying levers and calipers separately, but the pricing might not be as attractive.
My next roadie will be hydro disc, primarily so that I know how to work on AG's SystemSix and can swap wheels with it if needed (as has come up in the past once or twice). However, I'm quite happy I didn't jump a year ago, because these things were still being hashed out, and I want to see if we have stabilized on a technology set or if we will be endlessly changing mount "standards" and everything else involved.

Back then, many bikes I saw had mixed flat/ post between front and rear, and the front axles were 15x100 instead of 12x100.

Or maybe we'll just change everything every year and nothing will be compatible again.
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Old 01-16-20, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
First of all, unless their was a witness, how does the policeman know the arms were not down at the time of the collision. Next, it sounds like he stalled out on the tracks and got out of the cab. Unless it was bang-bang, the train was likely not close enough to activate the arms and flashers when he stalled out. When they finally were activated by the approaching train, the trailer would likely have prevented them from coming down. (Notice the cab on the other side of the tracks. The cab was on the tracks with the trailer at a spot that would have been underneath the path of the near arm.) The far arm clearly activated. You can see it down in the photo. Hopefully, the lead locomotive was fitted with a video recorder. Also, there is likely a "black box" for the crossing protection that will indicate whether it activated.

In any event, it depends. If everything was inspected, tested and maintained properly, there should be no additional liability risk. Ultimately, I think it doesn't matter in this case. Sounds like the guy stalled out well before the train arrived. No amount of crossing protection could have prevented the collision. As mentioned in the article, dude should have been nowhere near the vehicle. Get out and get back. Way back.
Yeah I don't understand the mental place to be where you think "I'm stalled out on the RR crossing, guess I'll just hang out here for now, lol whatevs!".

Stalled on tracks? Evacuate and get, yes, way back. And trains aren't ninjas...
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
My next roadie will be hydro disc, primarily so that I know how to work on AG's SystemSix and can swap wheels with it if needed (as has come up in the past once or twice). However, I'm quite happy I didn't jump a year ago, because these things were still being hashed out, and I want to see if we have stabilized on a technology set or if we will be endlessly changing mount "standards" and everything else involved.

Back then, many bikes I saw had mixed flat/ post between front and rear, and the front axles were 15x100 instead of 12x100.

Or maybe we'll just change everything every year and nothing will be compatible again.
Yeah, it was in flux not too long ago, but it seems to be pretty decided at this point. New frames that aren't flat mount with 12mm TAs are pretty uncommon. 140mm vs 160mm isn't as settled, but they're easy to adapt with flat mounts (many of the Shimano calipers come with adapters already mounted).
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
seedsbelize 's bicycle will lose its soul when he hits 12,001 posts.
But will it gain it back when he goes and deletes more posts to get back to 11 999?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
This is what the report implied. Makes me wonder if he was impaired or this was a weird suicide. It only takes a few seconds to run away from the truck.
My guess is that he stayed inside trying to start the thing. Then when the lights and gates activated he decided to bail but could not get clear in time. It's not like you have a long time. Or maybe he didn't appreciate how bod the impact could be and didn't get away back.
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If you put a penny on a RR track, will it get flattened out??

That's what we thought when we were kids, but I never tried it. I imagine you would have to glue the penny down or it would get thrown off.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
This is what the report implied. Makes me wonder if he was impaired or this was a weird suicide. It only takes a few seconds to run away from the truck.
Maybe. But he might have been a fat guy.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
We have a RR crossing like that. If it's DRY I will ride perpendicular to them, carefully. If it's wet (even just condensation/moist) I will stop and walk across.
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Originally Posted by datlas
We have a RR crossing like that. If it's DRY I will ride perpendicular to them, carefully. If it's wet (even just condensation/moist) I will stop and walk across.

ive ridden over them twice now dry, what happens if there wet?
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
ive ridden over them twice now dry, what happens if there wet?
Super slippery. Very easy for wheels give out under you. Be careful out there!
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Originally Posted by datlas
If you put a penny on a RR track, will it get flattened out??

That's what we thought when we were kids, but I never tried it. I imagine you would have to glue the penny down or it would get thrown off.
They usually stay on long enough to get flattened without the aid of glue. Depends on the track condition, train speed, etc. I imagine loose rail would be more likely to dump your coin before flattening.

You can also crush gravel.
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Here's my train squished quarter.

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We have a RR crossing like that. If it's DRY I will ride perpendicular to them, carefully. If it's wet (even just condensation/moist) I will stop and walk across.
I just dial it up to 400w and bunny hop em!
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<===Has ridden over said tracks many times

<===Has not crashed

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Here's my train squished quarter.

That's a quarter?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That's a quarter?
Well, when you add the other 24...
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Here's my train squished quarter.

Where is George??
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
That's a quarter?
Yeah, they haven't been silver since the sixties, IIRC

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