datlas 

At PBK, with 5% discount, the GP 4000s tire is only $28.25 each....with free shipping!

biffstephens

I love mine and pay double that!

RoboCheme

I hope you're right. I gave up on my Michelin PR3s because of multiple slashes (much more than on my PR2s.)

I've only got ~200 miles on my 4000s - so far, so good.

Namenda

Ditto. Changed to 4000S, no more troubles. They ride better, too.

Wishbone

I was happy to pay 39.95 for mine. Best racing clinchers I've used.

datlas 

In defense of Michelin, I have heard good things about the PR3's (i.e. better than the PR2's, although I have not ridden them)....but I have been VERY pleased with the GP 4000s, and as above the current price from PBK can't be beat, about HALF the price charged by most online retailers in the usa.

slimvela

I may snatch up three even though I do not need them. I'm rolling on Vredestein Fortezza TriComps now, much smoother rolling than the GP4k's but also harsher on the bumps.

Edit: just ordered three...

RoboCheme

Yes, my "too many slashes" comment was based on a rather small data set of one, but I was amazed how many pretty deep slashes I got after a very short time. Especially when I compared this to my trouble-free experience with PR2s.

sigg.switz

Mine are seriously difficult to get on the rim. Levers are more than necessary.

datlas 

I have found that levers are necessary the FIRST time you mount the tires....subsequent mounts can be done just with your fingers, in my experience.

hyunelan2

I just put on new GP4000s from PBK last week. I actually snapped a leveler trying to mount the tire - they are that stiff. I hope they loosen up a little for roadside flat fixing reasons, but expect they will.

Tequila Joe

Recently I've ridden PR2's, Rubino Pro & Pro Slick, Fortezza Tri Comps, Ultra Sports and the GP 4000 S is by far the best wearing / handling tire. I'm probably jinxing myself but I've had only 1 flat on these on 2 sets in over 6000 km. (Front tire and the nail went right through to the rim tape)

I orderd 3 from PBK this morning to last me through the 2009 season.

Mounting them on my Ksyrium Sl's were easy compare to mountng them on my CF clinchers. I always varry levers just in case.

adamt

how do they handle in the wet? Living in Portland Oregon I am generally concerned about that.

midorix

Just ordered Four 4000S with 5% off.
I hope it's good as Michelin PR2.
Decided against PR3 based on posting regarding excessive/fast wear.

cuski

Depends on the rims. On My Fulcrum 1s they just slide into place easily.

caloso

I started using these last season because we got them through a team deal (and still paid more than the PBK price, by the way). I'm very, very, very happy with mine. I'm going to stick with them.

Flatballer

Wait, they're in stock today? WTF. What good is e-mail alerts if they don't actually e-mail you when they're in stock.

And the site is down right now so I can't go look.

mikay

I swapped out my stock bontrager tires for GP4000S's, and I won't ride on anything else anymore. The grip when cornering is unbelievable, couple of times I have thought mid corner 'I'm going down', and suddenly it feels like someone from above grabbing me by the jersey and saying 'Oh no you dont!!!'

Don't worry, it gets a lot easier, they loosen up quite a bit

s4one

yea they are in stock

mtoto85

Back in the summer I read an article testing various road tires. If I remember correctly it was a study in Germany...BUT I'm not entirely sure. Conti's GP4000s were included in the study and it was given a good rating for wet weather riding. Sorry to be so vague.

I've had good luck with Bontrager Race Lite tires in the full on rain in Milwaukee. They're pretty cheap tires too! Hope this helps...maybe you can find that test.

kayakdiver

I hope all the good vibe is correct since I just ordered a set from PBK last week.... In San Fran awaiting customs clearance.... Should be here soon.

RacerJRP

hmm do i roder these or some michelins for the crit bike....I usually run schwalbes but dont have the money for another set now.

Flatballer

What's going on...

The GP4000 with black chili is out of stock, and costs about $24 on PBK. But the GP4000S (which says it has black chili) is in stock but costs about $30.

Does anyone know what the difference is?

4000S folding 700x23

4000 black chili folding 700x23

grahny

Funny... I just ordered a set today from PBK as a change to the the Vittorias I've been riding. Good to hear some positive feedback on them.

Bevo Bill

They are the same tire- but you pay a little more for the trick silver sidewall writing... go figure.

(also, the colored GP4000 tires do not have "black chili" flat resistance- whatever that's worth)

anyway I love my set