Walking Pneumonia and those of us 50+
03-14-17, 05:03 AM
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Walking Pneumonia and those of us 50+
I know everyone is different, thus recoveries from illnesses are at differing rates, but I do have a question. I was diagnosed with walking pneumonia back on March 4th (although I had been sick for a couple days prior to the diagnosis) and even with the antibiotics the doctor prescribed for me, ten days later I still feel like, as an old boss used to say, poop on a shoe. I called my doctor yesterday and she said that it takes time to recover, sometimes up to a month. That has me discouraged, because the last time I had this, about 6.5 years ago (was 46 at that time), I bounced back from it pretty quickly.
So, I guess I said all of that to ask this.....have any of you experienced walking pneumonia after 50, and if so, how long did it take you to fully recover? I see my bike sitting there in my enclosed porch, and I'm just itching to get back on it....but at least I know better to do so until I'm fully well, especially since freezing temps (and now snow) have returned to the Chicago area.
Thanks for letting me vent.
So, I guess I said all of that to ask this.....have any of you experienced walking pneumonia after 50, and if so, how long did it take you to fully recover? I see my bike sitting there in my enclosed porch, and I'm just itching to get back on it....but at least I know better to do so until I'm fully well, especially since freezing temps (and now snow) have returned to the Chicago area.
Thanks for letting me vent.
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If doc says easy pedaling is OK, I'd go for it.
03-14-17, 05:51 AM
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Last time I had it, the doc refused to prescribe anything for it until I'd been sick over 2 months. If the congestion doesn't clear up with the first course, you may need a second round of different antibiotics.
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I can tell you this. I had pneumonia at 17, and except for the fever and persistent cough, I felt fine. Our doc put me into the hospital where they put me in a misty oxygen tent for a week (no antibiotics ... it was viral pneumonia). Oy was that fun ... sitting there listening to the hissing all day.
When I was finally released a week later, the doc told me that if I was an older man, it would have likely killed me. And by the time I was released, I got winded simply walking across the room and back.
So I guess my input is this ... pneumonia is serious (and sometimes deadly) stuff. It can make you sicker than you think, and getting back can take longer than you might expect. A month doesn't surprise me at all.
PS: One thing I learned from the experience is that if I have chest congestion and a temperature for more than a couple of days, I see a doc straightaway.
When I was finally released a week later, the doc told me that if I was an older man, it would have likely killed me. And by the time I was released, I got winded simply walking across the room and back.
So I guess my input is this ... pneumonia is serious (and sometimes deadly) stuff. It can make you sicker than you think, and getting back can take longer than you might expect. A month doesn't surprise me at all.
PS: One thing I learned from the experience is that if I have chest congestion and a temperature for more than a couple of days, I see a doc straightaway.
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Did they culture you? What color is/was your sputum? Are you experiencing asthma, i.e. wheezing on hard exhalation?
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With the way I currently feel, even if I did easy pedaling just from my front door to the street (probably no more than 50 feet), it would probably kill me. No, I don't think there's even going to be any easy pedaling for a while still. I can't even do my trainer for more than a few seconds.
I did not know there was a vaccine for walking pneumonia. I will certainly be asking her about it the next time we speak.
No, no cultures were taken, just x-rays and listening to my lungs when trying to take deep breaths, and hacking up a lung in the process. No wheezing, just feels like my lungs are on fire whenever I cough.
I did not know there was a vaccine for walking pneumonia. I will certainly be asking her about it the next time we speak.
No, no cultures were taken, just x-rays and listening to my lungs when trying to take deep breaths, and hacking up a lung in the process. No wheezing, just feels like my lungs are on fire whenever I cough.
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https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pne...lic/index.html
03-14-17, 11:10 AM
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According to WebMD, true walking pneumonia is caused by a bacteria. And it says this:
"When you see your doctor, she will decide if you need antibiotics. If she does start you on them, you should begin to feel better within a few days."
I remember that most of my congestion disappeared in a few days, but it took a week or so to regain my strength and feel close-to-normal.
"When you see your doctor, she will decide if you need antibiotics. If she does start you on them, you should begin to feel better within a few days."
I remember that most of my congestion disappeared in a few days, but it took a week or so to regain my strength and feel close-to-normal.
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With the way I currently feel, even if I did easy pedaling just from my front door to the street (probably no more than 50 feet), it would probably kill me. No, I don't think there's even going to be any easy pedaling for a while still. I can't even do my trainer for more than a few seconds.
I did not know there was a vaccine for walking pneumonia. I will certainly be asking her about it the next time we speak.
No, no cultures were taken, just x-rays and listening to my lungs when trying to take deep breaths, and hacking up a lung in the process. No wheezing, just feels like my lungs are on fire whenever I cough.
I did not know there was a vaccine for walking pneumonia. I will certainly be asking her about it the next time we speak.
No, no cultures were taken, just x-rays and listening to my lungs when trying to take deep breaths, and hacking up a lung in the process. No wheezing, just feels like my lungs are on fire whenever I cough.
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If you're old like me (65+), get both pneumococcal vaccines (not at the same time). Also recommended for those from 2-64 who are at increased risk. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pne...lic/index.html
A bit off-topic although previously mentioned, but shingles vaccine is recommended by CDC for those 60+ and approved by FDA for those 50+. The down side is that it lasts for about five years. Mine's probably about done wore out
A bit off-topic although previously mentioned, but shingles vaccine is recommended by CDC for those 60+ and approved by FDA for those 50+. The down side is that it lasts for about five years. Mine's probably about done wore out
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If you're old like me (65+), get both pneumococcal vaccines (not at the same time). Also recommended for those from 2-64 who are at increased risk. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/pne...lic/index.html
A bit off-topic although previously mentioned, but shingles vaccine is recommended by CDC for those 60+ and approved by FDA for those 50+. The down side is that it lasts for about five years. Mine's probably about done wore out
A bit off-topic although previously mentioned, but shingles vaccine is recommended by CDC for those 60+ and approved by FDA for those 50+. The down side is that it lasts for about five years. Mine's probably about done wore out
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Here's a FB post from an older triathlete friend of mine. She's been to Kona, so she's really a top performer. I've had a cough since about Jan. 7, so I'm taking her advice and going in for a chest X-ray this week.
She got a prescription for a specific anti-fungal, says so far not much change except that the medicine is slightly psychedelic.
If you've had a cough for weeks or months, read this:
I have been sick with "a cold," off and on since early November. I've had a cough, and my energy has been super low the whole time. I went to the doctor in December, January, and February. Each time, they listened to my lungs and said, "Don't hear anything - you don't have pneumonia. This year's bug seems to be lasting a long time. Just keep resting."
Finally, in early February, I went back a 4th time. "I'm still sick. There's something seriously wrong." A new, really thorough, nurse practitioner went over all my symptoms and said, "Even though we can't hear anything in your lungs, all your symptoms point to pneumonia. Let's do a chest x-ray."
The chest x-ray (and subsequent chest CT scan) showed a GOLFBALL-SIZED MASS, plus plugged-up airways surrounding the mass. Turns out, I've had pneumonia for at least a couple of months.
MY MESSAGE TO YOU: If you're still coughing (productive or not) and feeling low energy, INSIST on a chest x-ray, even if your doctor can't hear anything abnormal in your lungs. A "regular old cold" should go away in a week or so. If it doesn't, you might have pneumonia.
Especially if you're in good overall health. As an athlete, my lungs are still in good working order - except for the pneumonia. My vital signs are perfect, my oxygenation is still at/near 100%. All the "usual" symptoms are missing, simply because I'm really healthy. But I was still really sick.
At this point, my recovery will be 6-12 months. Don't know how much permanent lung damage I've sustained. Fortunately, it's a treatable pneumonia (fungal - aspergillum fumigate). Unfortunately, I've been out of work for over 2 weeks, I'm out of sick leave, I haven't been able to exercise for over a month (before that, I was so weak I couldn't do much), and I will end up being sick for probably 2 months longer than necessary. This year's marathon, half marathon, and half Ironman are all cancelled.
Hopefully this post will help someone avoid staying sick longer than necessary.
I have been sick with "a cold," off and on since early November. I've had a cough, and my energy has been super low the whole time. I went to the doctor in December, January, and February. Each time, they listened to my lungs and said, "Don't hear anything - you don't have pneumonia. This year's bug seems to be lasting a long time. Just keep resting."
Finally, in early February, I went back a 4th time. "I'm still sick. There's something seriously wrong." A new, really thorough, nurse practitioner went over all my symptoms and said, "Even though we can't hear anything in your lungs, all your symptoms point to pneumonia. Let's do a chest x-ray."
The chest x-ray (and subsequent chest CT scan) showed a GOLFBALL-SIZED MASS, plus plugged-up airways surrounding the mass. Turns out, I've had pneumonia for at least a couple of months.
MY MESSAGE TO YOU: If you're still coughing (productive or not) and feeling low energy, INSIST on a chest x-ray, even if your doctor can't hear anything abnormal in your lungs. A "regular old cold" should go away in a week or so. If it doesn't, you might have pneumonia.
Especially if you're in good overall health. As an athlete, my lungs are still in good working order - except for the pneumonia. My vital signs are perfect, my oxygenation is still at/near 100%. All the "usual" symptoms are missing, simply because I'm really healthy. But I was still really sick.
At this point, my recovery will be 6-12 months. Don't know how much permanent lung damage I've sustained. Fortunately, it's a treatable pneumonia (fungal - aspergillum fumigate). Unfortunately, I've been out of work for over 2 weeks, I'm out of sick leave, I haven't been able to exercise for over a month (before that, I was so weak I couldn't do much), and I will end up being sick for probably 2 months longer than necessary. This year's marathon, half marathon, and half Ironman are all cancelled.
Hopefully this post will help someone avoid staying sick longer than necessary.
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A month or so for your lungs to clear out isn't unreasonable.
I got what I'm blaming on the Swine Flu in January. Over a week later, and I was in bad shape, so off to see the doctor. He diagnosed me with pneumonia and gave me prednisone + antibiotics. It took me 10 days more of being pretty miserable until I started really improving. I'm still not sure if it as the antibiotics, time, or steroids. Fever had pretty much broken by the time I saw the doctor.
I got a cheap Pulse-OX to monitor O2 saturation. I was down in the low 80's on diagnosis, and it took quite a while to get back to the mid to upper 90's (I think it should be 98 to 100).
I tend to get coughs that will last a long time, so a month later, and I'm better, but still coughing. I'm expecting this cough to linger until June or so when it gets hot and dry out.
I'm not sure about cycling in cold weather, but I believe there are some benefits of getting out and doing some deep breathing. So, some exercise isn't bad. I stayed a bit at my mother's house, and did some chopping wood and storm cleanup. And, I believe it was good for me to get out and get moving.
I'm back riding a lot, but a bit slower than I was earlier
I got what I'm blaming on the Swine Flu in January. Over a week later, and I was in bad shape, so off to see the doctor. He diagnosed me with pneumonia and gave me prednisone + antibiotics. It took me 10 days more of being pretty miserable until I started really improving. I'm still not sure if it as the antibiotics, time, or steroids. Fever had pretty much broken by the time I saw the doctor.
I got a cheap Pulse-OX to monitor O2 saturation. I was down in the low 80's on diagnosis, and it took quite a while to get back to the mid to upper 90's (I think it should be 98 to 100).
I tend to get coughs that will last a long time, so a month later, and I'm better, but still coughing. I'm expecting this cough to linger until June or so when it gets hot and dry out.
I'm not sure about cycling in cold weather, but I believe there are some benefits of getting out and doing some deep breathing. So, some exercise isn't bad. I stayed a bit at my mother's house, and did some chopping wood and storm cleanup. And, I believe it was good for me to get out and get moving.
I'm back riding a lot, but a bit slower than I was earlier
03-14-17, 05:14 PM
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Well you learn something new every day.
I'm 70 years old and, until five minutes ago, I had never heard of walking pneumonia. Is that what we in the UK call mild pneumonia?
Whatever it's called take care with the recovery.
I'm 70 years old and, until five minutes ago, I had never heard of walking pneumonia. Is that what we in the UK call mild pneumonia?
Whatever it's called take care with the recovery.
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Some history on the term 'walking pneumonia' from Wiki (Pedia, not Leaks). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atypical_pneumonia
As an RN working in a quality abstraction role, I have looked at many, many patient charts in the last few years and don't recall seeing 'walking pneumonia' in any documentation. Altho it could still be thrown into a note by a physician or other provider.
Anyone with a suspicion that they could possibly have pneumonia should get thee to a healthcare provider.
As an RN working in a quality abstraction role, I have looked at many, many patient charts in the last few years and don't recall seeing 'walking pneumonia' in any documentation. Altho it could still be thrown into a note by a physician or other provider.
Anyone with a suspicion that they could possibly have pneumonia should get thee to a healthcare provider.
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I've never heard walking pneumonia referred to unless it was in conjunction with boogie woogie flu.
Last couple of times I had anything like that was about 12 years ago when I underestimated a respiratory bug. Apparently a relative took me to the ER, where they pumped me full of Prednisone and antibiotics. I don't remember that part, although I do remember the week-long course of oral steroids.
Reminds me, I'm overdue for the pneumonia vaccine. I've had so many bouts with pneumonia and respiratory bugs since childhood it's always compromised my aerobic conditioning even when I was in peak condition in my 20s. Doesn't hinder me enough now to worry about, but I probably shouldn't be so complacent about it.
Last couple of times I had anything like that was about 12 years ago when I underestimated a respiratory bug. Apparently a relative took me to the ER, where they pumped me full of Prednisone and antibiotics. I don't remember that part, although I do remember the week-long course of oral steroids.
Reminds me, I'm overdue for the pneumonia vaccine. I've had so many bouts with pneumonia and respiratory bugs since childhood it's always compromised my aerobic conditioning even when I was in peak condition in my 20s. Doesn't hinder me enough now to worry about, but I probably shouldn't be so complacent about it.
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I think it is better called chronic pneumonia and it is usually persistent in people with a compromised immune system. Of course older folks generally have weakening immunes systems thus increased concern.
I could be wrong but shingles vaccine is useful for those who have been exposed to the chickenpox as it may return in later life presenting as shingles.
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I could be wrong but shingles vaccine is useful for those who have been exposed to the chickenpox as it may return in later life presenting as shingles.
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I think it is better called chronic pneumonia and it is usually persistent in people with a compromised immune system. Of course older folks generally have weakening immunes systems thus increased concern.
I could be wrong but shingles vaccine is useful for those who have been exposed to the chickenpox as it may return in later life presenting as shingles.
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I could be wrong but shingles vaccine is useful for those who have been exposed to the chickenpox as it may return in later life presenting as shingles.
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Some history on the term 'walking pneumonia' from Wiki (Pedia, not Leaks). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atypical_pneumonia
As an RN working in a quality abstraction role, I have looked at many, many patient charts in the last few years and don't recall seeing 'walking pneumonia' in any documentation. Altho it could still be thrown into a note by a physician or other provider.
Anyone with a suspicion that they could possibly have pneumonia should get thee to a healthcare provider.
As an RN working in a quality abstraction role, I have looked at many, many patient charts in the last few years and don't recall seeing 'walking pneumonia' in any documentation. Altho it could still be thrown into a note by a physician or other provider.
Anyone with a suspicion that they could possibly have pneumonia should get thee to a healthcare provider.
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Stay indoors. Use your 'down time' to ride a recumbent exercise bike or old-school rollers to stay in shape. Clean/rebuild/upgrade your bike.
I was a USPS mail carrier for 33 years in cold damp Cleveland, and pneumonia was a regular thing for me every couple of years.. Coughing 'til I passed out, etc. There is nothing you can do because Pneumonia is a virus, and modern medicine has no cure for viruses!!! The ONLY thing you can do is to build up your physical being and increase your stamina so you have a reserve strength!
I was a USPS mail carrier for 33 years in cold damp Cleveland, and pneumonia was a regular thing for me every couple of years.. Coughing 'til I passed out, etc. There is nothing you can do because Pneumonia is a virus, and modern medicine has no cure for viruses!!! The ONLY thing you can do is to build up your physical being and increase your stamina so you have a reserve strength!
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Pneumonia just describes a generic condition that hinders oxygen exchange, generally affecting the alveoli, and is not specific to pathogen. It can be caused by viruses, bacteria or fungi. So some types are responsive to antibiotics and antifungal agents.
There are some predictors or risk indicators for certain types. I have moderate asthma, a moderate auto-immune disease (Hashimoto's) and a history of bronchitis and pneumonia, but good response to ordinary treatments like Prednisone and antibiotics. But folks with other factors may have different vulnerabilities and may respond better to other preventives and treatments.
There are some predictors or risk indicators for certain types. I have moderate asthma, a moderate auto-immune disease (Hashimoto's) and a history of bronchitis and pneumonia, but good response to ordinary treatments like Prednisone and antibiotics. But folks with other factors may have different vulnerabilities and may respond better to other preventives and treatments.
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Everyone is different, but it took me about a month. It was my energy level which determined whether or not I wanted to ride. Walking pneumonia makes me tired, which Is my body's way of telling me to rest up. Eat well, drink liquids, get all the sleep you need. That's my $.02.
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After rarely catching any respiratory infections for decades, both my wife and I got pneumonia last year AND this year. Last year she got hit hard and was down for a couple of months while I barely noticed it. This year, she waltzed through it while I thought I was going to die (literally). After a couple of weeks down, I finally went to my physician during the second week of December. It wasn't until the middle of February that I was able to start exercising again. For those two months I felt like I was 120 years old. Even walking to my local grocery store was an epic event.
Unfortunately, while I initially lost a bit of weight, there was a long stretch there where I was eating plenty but not burning any off. I've gotten rid of about twenty-five of the thirty-five pounds of excess I put on over the past five and a half weeks and expect to be back to my normal weight by the end of the month. I'm even hoping to be somewhat back to normal fitness by the end of April.
Unfortunately, while I initially lost a bit of weight, there was a long stretch there where I was eating plenty but not burning any off. I've gotten rid of about twenty-five of the thirty-five pounds of excess I put on over the past five and a half weeks and expect to be back to my normal weight by the end of the month. I'm even hoping to be somewhat back to normal fitness by the end of April.