wasp

ya i am serious...no one has pointed to a LAW
the gov can say what they want untill it's backed up
with a LAW on the books its nothing more than a oppinion
show me the LAW
as far as "check out #12"...they have to use the interpitation act or
spell it out in the preamble of a new act...what acts statutes or laws
are you sheaple referring to...if it was so easy to understand one of you
smart peeps would have pointed to a law,statute or act...still waiting

Abneycat

The laws are in the criminal code of Canada, and the Highway Traffic Act, respectively. They will pertain to the consequences of operating a motor vehicle outside of acceptable guidelines.

You now have the information from the MTO on the vehicular guideline, so simply go look up standard traffic laws and add 2 + 2 together. You can find most HTA information on the e-laws website.

I'm not entertaining your annoying game any longer, go consult a lawyer or find the respective sections yourself.

coldfeet

I too, will leave after this. The reason we are not stating specific laws is this.

Which one applies, depends on how you modify your e-bike. If you modify it outside the guidelines,
it becomes something else, what it becomes depends on the modifications. That determines the laws
that you are now subject to.

Example, in Alberta, if you make it weigh more than 35 kg, it becomes either a moped or a motorcycle.
Those both need registration, license and insurance.

Sayonara.

Abneycat

I've provided you MTO information, explained how vehicular guidelines work, and told you *exactly* where you can find solid road laws, online on the HTA e-laws website. I'm not your mom, and i'm not your paid lawyer. I'm not going to spend the time to hold your hand and point out to you every piece of information.

Here, i'll put the website for the Ontario government's online law database up for you.

https://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/index.html

Go look up the section titled "Highway Traffic Act" to find out everything you need to know about the enacted laws in your province. You can easily see why i'm not interested in slaving away for some wordy punk, as there are a lot of laws. Take the time to figure out how things work for yourself.

garysol1 

Please ease up on the name calling. The Electric Bikes forum is not the place for it. I have edited some posts to get this back on track. It is not a thread that I want to lock down
Thank you
Gary.........Moderator

wasp

i don't wish for this thread to get locked
but alot of sheaple want to qoute laws and
i'm saying show them...nobody has
if you can't provide what you speak than your
part of the problem of speading mistruths
if a cop said it's against the law and i said show me?
and he refused...should i just listen or ask for PROOF
you people point out guidelines and mto...show me the law
you can't so instead you tell me i'm being childish
show me the law or stop telling others mistruths
based on your personal opinions
still waiting....

SeizeTech

I'm not beyond taking the same approach at times. However, I think the level of support and friendship on this forum is worth preserving even if it means that I have to go to other websites to name call and flame.

Abneycat

Wasp, I put the e-laws website up for you, so saying you haven't been shown anything isn't true. There's a section for the Highway Traffic Act right there, with all applicable laws. Please have a look.

drewsoccer2

wow... since when is "idiot" a bad word? I hear two year olds say it on a regular basis, have u ever watched a tv program they say it atleast once per episode of gosh sake they probably say it on sesimey street its not like he called him a some horible name or something jeese lighten up and pull the stick out language is how humans express themselves and wh i agree this is not the place for inapropriat language i hardly find idiot offensive

Siu Blue Wind

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Well, I ....... I have nothing to say. Thank you for posting.

wernmax

I don't know what it is about America, Wasp...but it's like people here actually want to be oppressed by millions of rules, regulations and "statutes", laying out every step they can take, every little act they do....all in the name of safety, of course.

I'm sure if the "State" told them the had to have a License of some kind to even come out of their houses, they'd be happy to get one...and I hope it has a hefty Fee attached. So don't give us a hard time Wasp, as we quibble over a mile an hour or two on our, oh so dangerous, hot rodded electric bikes.

We're happy little serfs down here.

JakeEdwards

Most charges concerning the operation of an electric bicycle fall under the Highway Traffic Act, not the Criminal Code of Canada.

Some highlights may include:

135 (1),(2) and (3) Right of way
136 (1)(a),(b) Stop at stop sign
136(2) Acquiring right of way
140(6) Riding on a pedestrian cross-over
142(1) Unsafe turn
153 Wrong way on one-way
178(2) Motor assisted bicycle passengers
104(2.1) No Helmet
38 Person under 16 operating electric bike
228 Failing to comply with pilot project regulations

If the bike is illegal they may also be charged with
7(1) No plate
132(1) No license
33(1) No insurance

They may also be subject to various Municipal Code offences such as
Riding a motorized vehicle in a park, on a path or sidewalk

Also drunk cyclist may be charged with
CCC Section 253 Impaired Driving

To pretend that electric bikes are not subject to law is simply preposterous and anyone suggesting such a thing is several bricks short of a load.

ecowheelz

I'm not from Canada, so I don't know where to find all the laws and restrictions everyone is referring to. But other forum members have provided some great resources which outline the rules. If you don't believe the sources they've provided, go and test it! I'm sure you'd get a great response if you told a cop to "prove it to you"