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Originally Posted by Scorer75
Jarery: A bit harsh don't you think? For the record, I have Under Armor coldgear and I've never been to Starbucks.
The metal i actually like, but would never recomend it over a base layer at half the price. Powerdry is my favorite base layer, and costs a lot less and works better.
The coldgear itself does not work well as a base for an aerobic activity like cycling. It is trying to combine a base layer and mid thermal layer into one and fails, as do most all that try a similar approach. Craft is one of the few that works at doing it. Coldgear would work fine for less aeroic activities though.
A base has 1 purpose. Move sweat away from your skin. Does not matter what season it is or what the outside temperature is.
UA coldgear tries to add warmth, and in doing so it ends up holding sweat instead of pulling it away from your skin and moving it to the other side of the material where it gets picked up by the next layer, typically the mid thermal layer.
A much better, and cheaper solution, is to use a polypro/powerdry/capalene base layer, then a merino wool mid layer, then your outer shell. I still wear my coldgear, it still does the job. Just that other base layers i have do a much better job. With coldgear i arrive at work with a moist base layer. Its just not worth the money. And the original poster sounded as if he was considering buying some.
Edit : forum fubar, somehow my reply is now post #1 instead of like 10, hehe
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Way way overpriced for all pieces.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
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I wear the coldgear and a jacket down to about 10 F and have found them to be decent for up to an hour (That's about my longest ride, so I won't comment about longer rides). Oh, and nothing form fitting looks good on me.
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The coldgear works well for me but this has been brought up before and I'm in the minority.
I didn't purchase the cold gear specifically for cycling, I've been using it for years (about 3) playing outdoor ice hockey.
I didn't purchase the cold gear specifically for cycling, I've been using it for years (about 3) playing outdoor ice hockey.
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Originally Posted by Jarery
Way way overpriced for all pieces.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
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thoughts...
sure it works, but so does the cheaper stuff that doesn't have the enpenses of multi-million dollar marketing and those spiffy over muscular models
I hunt, and used to wear cold gear while out in the woods, then I switched to some scent blocker clothing that was made the same, and it worked the same, at half the price
so yeah, it'll work, but you can get twice to thrice the ammount of clothing for the same price by chosing something of a similar nature
sure it works, but so does the cheaper stuff that doesn't have the enpenses of multi-million dollar marketing and those spiffy over muscular models
I hunt, and used to wear cold gear while out in the woods, then I switched to some scent blocker clothing that was made the same, and it worked the same, at half the price
so yeah, it'll work, but you can get twice to thrice the ammount of clothing for the same price by chosing something of a similar nature
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Originally Posted by Jarery
Way way overpriced for all pieces.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
The heatgear pieces are decent as a base.
The cold gear peices are crap as a base layer.
But they look good as your posing at the starbucks counter.
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Underarmore = Overpriced
Performance wise, the one I have works well but lower price brands work just as well. The Coldgear stuff doesn't make sense as a base layer because the light fleece lining holds water instead of wicking it. It is better as a light mid later than a base layer.
Performance wise, the one I have works well but lower price brands work just as well. The Coldgear stuff doesn't make sense as a base layer because the light fleece lining holds water instead of wicking it. It is better as a light mid later than a base layer.
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never brought one, way too overpriced, buy all my polyester wicking clothes (baselayers, mid layers, fleece) at $3-5CDN a piece from a factory 2kms from me that makes EMS and REI clothings
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442586950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302878093&bmUID=1165726608810
it's pretty awesome, got a whole wardrobe full of them, i've only spend about $250
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442586950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302878093&bmUID=1165726608810
it's pretty awesome, got a whole wardrobe full of them, i've only spend about $250
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
never brought one, way too overpriced, buy all my polyester wicking clothes (baselayers, mid layers, fleece) at $3-5CDN a piece from a factory 2kms from me that makes EMS and REI clothings
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442586950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302878093&bmUID=1165726608810
it's pretty awesome, got a whole wardrobe full of them, i've only spend about $250
https://www.ems.com/catalog/product_detail_square.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524442586950&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302878093&bmUID=1165726608810
it's pretty awesome, got a whole wardrobe full of them, i've only spend about $250
That price is $25 bucks on that site and not $3-5 CDN. This you can work out something for the fellow BF members north of thr 49th parallel? That factory you're at they have a website? I could use 2-3 base layers myself but can't afford the heatgear stuff. I only have some stuff from Simons from Montreal when I was visiting.
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I have a bunch of the pullovers and leggings. I find no performance advantage over say the Starter clones one can get at Wally-World
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I love my underarmour, I got them cheap off ebay, new too. The t-shirts are great down to 40 degrees, in the 30's and 20's I wear the cold gear and I don't need a jacket.
If there was a cheaper alternative (though my t's were 15 and cold gear was 35) I'd be down. Always love a bargain.
If there was a cheaper alternative (though my t's were 15 and cold gear was 35) I'd be down. Always love a bargain.
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Originally Posted by vrkelley
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Which cold gear requires no jacket at 40F? Please post a link if possible. Thanks!
Which cold gear requires no jacket at 40F? Please post a link if possible. Thanks!
heh, must be the kind or person i see at 10 below and bare knees.
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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
That price is $25 bucks on that site and not $3-5 CDN. This you can work out something for the fellow BF members north of thr 49th parallel? That factory you're at they have a website? I could use 2-3 base layers myself but can't afford the heatgear stuff. I only have some stuff from Simons from Montreal when I was visiting.
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Originally Posted by Jarery
40f ? He says he wears the coldgear with no jacket down to 20f........
heh, must be the kind or person i see at 10 below and bare knees.
heh, must be the kind or person i see at 10 below and bare knees.
At 40F with jacket the shirt keeps the skin dry but the sweat sits on the outter part of the shirt and doesn't wick to the next layer...although the duofold (way cheaper) polypro works well.
https://www.amazon.com/Under-Armour-M.../dp/B00029BM1K
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Originally Posted by Jarery
A base has 1 purpose. Move sweat away from your skin. Does not matter what season it is or what the outside temperature is.
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I've found that my UA coldgear shirt (the form fitting one) does a great job of wicking and keeping me warm. I also wear a semi form fitting t-shirt on top to soak up the sweat and take it off the UA shirt. Then i'll usually have my jersey on top and maybe a windbreaker. After a long ride the UA shirt will be dry while the t-shirt is pretty moist with sweat. But as long as i'm warm it's all good.
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It was 43F outside when i tried it. I was comfortable for the duration of my 3 hour sunday morning ride (not my commute).
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Sorry if that wasn't clear. I use the regular underarmour t-shirts for 40 degrees and above. In the 20's and 30's (this is all Fahrenheit), I use the long sleeved underarmour cold gear, no jacket.