Lazzaretti road bike -56cm
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Lazzaretti road bike -56cm center to center
Hi- I’m going to be trying to move along a few bikes in the next month, starting with those that are likely to see little use. This Lazzaretti was subject of a recent thread here on the C&V page; I wanted to thank everyone who weighed in with identifying information about the brand and components.
In a nutshell; it was purchased from the original wife’s owner, built custom for him in or around 1971. Full Campy build, with the exception of Universal 68 sidepull brakes. Wheels are the original Campy hubs (date code “69”) and most likely still running the original sew-up tires. They hold air, but you’d be risking life and limb to try to ride on them!
I sourced new brake hoods from Italy, replaced cable housing, added Newbaums bar tape, Christophe toe straps, and changed out the brake pads.
It comes with a Lazzaretti shop branded frame pump and water bottle. It’s a pretty cool time capsule; paint is in good shape with the usual scratches. No bends or dents that I could observe
All of the bearings have been rebuilt with the exception of the pedals (haven’t had time for those yet)
Hard to pin down a value here; I’m asking $750, but open to suggestion!
In a nutshell; it was purchased from the original wife’s owner, built custom for him in or around 1971. Full Campy build, with the exception of Universal 68 sidepull brakes. Wheels are the original Campy hubs (date code “69”) and most likely still running the original sew-up tires. They hold air, but you’d be risking life and limb to try to ride on them!
I sourced new brake hoods from Italy, replaced cable housing, added Newbaums bar tape, Christophe toe straps, and changed out the brake pads.
It comes with a Lazzaretti shop branded frame pump and water bottle. It’s a pretty cool time capsule; paint is in good shape with the usual scratches. No bends or dents that I could observe
All of the bearings have been rebuilt with the exception of the pedals (haven’t had time for those yet)
Hard to pin down a value here; I’m asking $750, but open to suggestion!
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This is a pretty bike. Do you know what the tubing is?
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There was no tubing sticker on the frame when I bought the bike. Milo France opinioned that it might be Columbus SL based on the 27.0 diameter of the seattube.
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This bike is my size but I swore that I wouldn't pick up any more bikes . . .
This bike is lovely. It makes me think of the faema racing team colors, very classy.
This bike is lovely. It makes me think of the faema racing team colors, very classy.
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I just got back from a short spin on the bike to confirm that it is at least one size too big for me. And it is...
I'm open also to interesting trades for something vintage and cool in a 54 CM frame size.
A Gitane Super Corsa would be an ideal swap for me!
I'm open also to interesting trades for something vintage and cool in a 54 CM frame size.
A Gitane Super Corsa would be an ideal swap for me!
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Wow, so cool. no way I would trade that for a Gitane, just me and don't get me wrong, I am a Gitane fan but this bike is well above Gitane in cache IMO.
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Agreed. This bike might be a bit higher on the pecking order than a Super Corsa, but I’ve always had a itch for one of those. Preferably in purple or that flamboyant gold.
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Well if it was my size or if I even had purple SC we would have this done, very cool, if I didn't already have way too many too small bikes I would get this anyway but no can do. GLWS
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Thanks. I think this will be a very nice addition to somebody’s stable. Hopefully a C&V member will agree! I’ll probably give it a bit more time here before I send it out to the big auction site.
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Not sure what to think as I am in most of mine for more than I should be, fortunately I have no plans to sell anything, ever.
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Love the headbadge. Gorgeous piece of machinery.
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The wheels are just back from being trued up at the shop, and I’m going to bump this once more.
Going once, going twice, going three times.....
Going once, going twice, going three times.....
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That bike is a steal at $750. Does not mean it is easy to sell. I am convinced it is a Galmozzi but no idea how that would be proved.
Prices paid in Italy seem up a bit and this is square in range of what seems to sell. Italians would be more likely to know what this is. Maybe try listing on ebay.it. List in a few places. This bike deserves a good home. I am just full of bikes here, can't do another.
Prices paid in Italy seem up a bit and this is square in range of what seems to sell. Italians would be more likely to know what this is. Maybe try listing on ebay.it. List in a few places. This bike deserves a good home. I am just full of bikes here, can't do another.
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I did list it on the ‘Bay for more than the $650 I’m offering it to Forum members here. I know that prices on vintage bikes are down everywhere (with a few exceptions) right now. They may not be coming back to levels seen 3 years ago either, as the folks interested in buying them continue to age right along with the bicycles.
If the original owner of this bike bought it in 1971when he was twenty, for example, he’d be nearly 70 at this point. I’m imagining that the average age of C&V members of the forum might be somewhere around 60. If you are like me, perhaps the interest in acquiring a grail bike from ones youth is beginning to ebb a bit?
If the original owner of this bike bought it in 1971when he was twenty, for example, he’d be nearly 70 at this point. I’m imagining that the average age of C&V members of the forum might be somewhere around 60. If you are like me, perhaps the interest in acquiring a grail bike from ones youth is beginning to ebb a bit?
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While I’d love to think that I’d stumbled across a rebadged Galmozzi at an estate sale, I think any connection to that brand would be impossible to determine. There was a comment on the main C&V forum in my thread about this bike that it looked a bit like one, but aside from the distinctive lug set being similar to ones used for a time on Galmozzis, no one could add any information that tied those two marquees together.
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Maybe I could have my legs surgically shortened? With my long shanks there's just no way I could ride this without using a Thompson MTB seatpost. Just my luck - a bike I'm green with envy over that's just out of reach. Damn it.
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Update: after having several people reach out with their thoughts that this actually a Galmozzi built frame badged and sold as a Lazzaretti, I reached out to the Lazzaretti shop in Rome to see if they could shed some light on this. Several email and photo exchanges later (conducted on my end via a clunky translation app), they got back to me this morning with the word that it is indeed a Galmozzi frame built in the late 1960’s. Very cool!
Im going to need to re-evaluate what I’m going to do with this bike; a short stem would definitely help with the fit....
Im going to need to re-evaluate what I’m going to do with this bike; a short stem would definitely help with the fit....
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Update: after having several people reach out with their thoughts that this actually a Galmozzi built frame badged and sold as a Lazzaretti, I reached out to the Lazzaretti shop in Rome to see if they could shed some light on this. Several email and photo exchanges later (conducted on my end via a clunky translation app), they got back to me this morning with the word that it is indeed a Galmozzi frame built in the late 1960’s. Very cool!
Im going to need to re-evaluate what I’m going to do with this bike; a short stem would definitely help with the fit....
Im going to need to re-evaluate what I’m going to do with this bike; a short stem would definitely help with the fit....
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Lazzaretti - Galmozzi Indeed
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I'm the fortunate recipient of this late 60's Lazzaretti badged Galmozzi.
Last Thursday I traded a 54cm 1969-70 Gitane Super Corsa to @orcas island for the Lazzaretti. He did a great job of cleaning up this sleek Italian beauty.
Monetarily, I may have gotten the better end of the deal but orcas island has a 54cm SC with a very low mileage Campy gruppo that he can ride comfortably.
Update on the Lazzaretti:
It is indeed a Galmozzi built frame. It has the Galmozzi rooster stamped into the top of the seat tube.
The frame has Columbus fluting reinforcements in the steerer like in this fork.
But wait! The best part is the frame is probably made of Columbus SL tubing!
There's a 27.0mm seatpost in it now but it should have a 27.2mm seatpost. See how the seat lug is over clamped,
Now, the bad news for me...
I measured the frame with a small pocket tape measure in a poorly lit location when we were working out the trade.
When I got home I remeasured everything and found that the frame is not a 56cm (my size) but it's 58.5cm - (~23") Center to Top. The top tube is 57.5cm Center to Center.
The low 10 3/8" bottom bracket gives a 32.5" standover height which is a smidgen high for my short bandy rooster legs.
The frame has classic Italian road racing geometry for the late 60's when a lot of the roads they raced on were poorly paved and the ride was rough.
The 104cm wheel base, low BB and around a 60cm fork combined with the 73° head and seat tube angles should give the bike a smooth ride.
I'm going to change seats, throw in some clinchers and take it out for a test ride.
If I find that the frame is just too big for me, I'll entertain offers.
If I don't get any takers, I'll just add the bike to my collection.
verktyg
I'm the fortunate recipient of this late 60's Lazzaretti badged Galmozzi.
Last Thursday I traded a 54cm 1969-70 Gitane Super Corsa to @orcas island for the Lazzaretti. He did a great job of cleaning up this sleek Italian beauty.
Monetarily, I may have gotten the better end of the deal but orcas island has a 54cm SC with a very low mileage Campy gruppo that he can ride comfortably.
Update on the Lazzaretti:
It is indeed a Galmozzi built frame. It has the Galmozzi rooster stamped into the top of the seat tube.
The frame has Columbus fluting reinforcements in the steerer like in this fork.
But wait! The best part is the frame is probably made of Columbus SL tubing!
There's a 27.0mm seatpost in it now but it should have a 27.2mm seatpost. See how the seat lug is over clamped,
Now, the bad news for me...
I measured the frame with a small pocket tape measure in a poorly lit location when we were working out the trade.
When I got home I remeasured everything and found that the frame is not a 56cm (my size) but it's 58.5cm - (~23") Center to Top. The top tube is 57.5cm Center to Center.
The low 10 3/8" bottom bracket gives a 32.5" standover height which is a smidgen high for my short bandy rooster legs.
The frame has classic Italian road racing geometry for the late 60's when a lot of the roads they raced on were poorly paved and the ride was rough.
The 104cm wheel base, low BB and around a 60cm fork combined with the 73° head and seat tube angles should give the bike a smooth ride.
I'm going to change seats, throw in some clinchers and take it out for a test ride.
If I find that the frame is just too big for me, I'll entertain offers.
If I don't get any takers, I'll just add the bike to my collection.
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