Saddle replacement for Brooks C17
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Saddle replacement for Brooks C17
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I ride a Spot Acme for commuting and occasional touring and I am sitting on an angled position with my weight properly put on my sit bones.
I've been using a Brooks C17 saddle which I've always found rather hard but never minded too much on short distances (<30mins rides). Recently I went on a two days tour and following happened after about 1.5hr riding:
1) Numbness on the front of my groin
2) Pain around the sit bones (had to stretch out of the saddle mutiple times)
I could partly remediate 1) by sligtlhy tilting down the front o the saddle so as to reduce pressure.
However 2) was unchanged.
At this point I think I need a different saddle and I am looking for suggestions before I go out and try some.
I am 6'2" tall and 215lb heavy.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Fabrizio
I ride a Spot Acme for commuting and occasional touring and I am sitting on an angled position with my weight properly put on my sit bones.
I've been using a Brooks C17 saddle which I've always found rather hard but never minded too much on short distances (<30mins rides). Recently I went on a two days tour and following happened after about 1.5hr riding:
1) Numbness on the front of my groin
2) Pain around the sit bones (had to stretch out of the saddle mutiple times)
I could partly remediate 1) by sligtlhy tilting down the front o the saddle so as to reduce pressure.
However 2) was unchanged.
At this point I think I need a different saddle and I am looking for suggestions before I go out and try some.
I am 6'2" tall and 215lb heavy.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Fabrizio
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I hate my C17. I try to like it, but its just not comfortable.
I love my B17 (leather), and Fizik Aliante.
The "reviews" proclaim that the C17 doesn't have to be broken in, but my B17 was more comfortable new, than the C17 ever was. And the B17 just gets better and better.
I love my B17 (leather), and Fizik Aliante.
The "reviews" proclaim that the C17 doesn't have to be broken in, but my B17 was more comfortable new, than the C17 ever was. And the B17 just gets better and better.
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It's impossible to say what saddle will suit a person. You just have to try a few. But definitely change your saddle if you have genital numbness. You should never tolerate that.
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A thought: the C17 is a curved top saddle, that's doesn't work for me. The Brooks Pro has a hump on top, same thing. Hammock style like the Anatomica also are big fails for this butt.
Flat top saddles, even if they're narrow, even cheap ones like the SR saddles, work much better for my anatomy. So, B17, Fizik, Ergon, some SRs, some SMPs, they tend to be closer to an ideal fit right out or the box.
Flat top saddles, even if they're narrow, even cheap ones like the SR saddles, work much better for my anatomy. So, B17, Fizik, Ergon, some SRs, some SMPs, they tend to be closer to an ideal fit right out or the box.
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1 down 99+ more to try, I don't have your hips to have a say what I like ,
to matter.
you like the flatter sit upon part of that saddle type, or will a rounder shape help?
as I say on these FAQ, hit the bike shop and try 'Take Offs',
They're new, but bike buyer wanted something else, so Cheaper.
....
to matter.
you like the flatter sit upon part of that saddle type, or will a rounder shape help?
as I say on these FAQ, hit the bike shop and try 'Take Offs',
They're new, but bike buyer wanted something else, so Cheaper.
....
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@sounasega are you using a C17 or a C17 carved? I've been using C15 and C13's for a few years now and love them, but I can see how it could feel a bit stiff for some people. At one point I had a C15 carved and it had much more give to it. Might be worth a look and see if you can find a C17 Carved and give it a try.
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@sounasega are you using a C17 or a C17 carved? I've been using C15 and C13's for a few years now and love them, but I can see how it could feel a bit stiff for some people. At one point I had a C15 carved and it had much more give to it. Might be worth a look and see if you can find a C17 Carved and give it a try.
Below - Hardy - I have one of those in my garage. Guess I should try it out. Mostly been riding an Ergon (or Fizik) lately...
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I have Brooks Cambium C17 Carved (the one with the cutout) on all my bikes .... The trick with these, is that you have to find the correct position of the saddle .... a little bit forward ... a little bit back ... but when you find the 'sweet spot' you dont't even 'think' about saddle on long rides
I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.
and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.
and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
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I am a big guy 6"0 and 250. I have a B17, which I enjoyed, but because I had to angle the nose up I found that a little bothersome. I have a Selle Anatomica X (has the cut out) and I do not feel it at all, even in rides 2 hours +.
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
If you buy your saddles at an LBS, I'd suggest talking to them about a loaner, trade in, or return/exchange policy. The two biggest shops around here both have excellent return policies on saddles and I've gone back and forth with one of them 2-3 times before I got situated on the c15. You might also look into a fitting, it's possible that there may be small adjustments that can be made that will change how you're sitting on the saddle and make it more comfortable.
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
I wouldn't get the springs unless I'm sitting upright.
+1 for working with a good bike shop - good ones have good return policies, and sometimes even "loaner" saddles you can try out.
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I have Brooks Cambium C17 Carved (the one with the cutout) on all my bikes .... The trick with these, is that you have to find the correct position of the saddle .... a little bit forward ... a little bit back ... but when you find the 'sweet spot' you dont't even 'think' about saddle on long rides
I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.
and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
I see a lot of long distance audax riders using these.
and, sometimes, it's not the saddle, but it's your arse that needs breaking in
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Dear all,
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
Thanks a lot for your helpful comments.
In the meantime I also measured my sitbone width which is 14cm.
I was considering the B17 with springs (Flyer) : anyone has experience with it?
@pesty: my C17 is not carved and the biggest issue it is it being hard and uncomfortable on my sitbone after a while.
Thanks again,
Fabrizio
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I have a Brooks C17. It's an okay saddle. Maybe a little hard for my liking, but I haven't had any problems. I do much prefer my Brooks B17, which is ultimately comfy.
If your only problem now is your sit bones, I suggest that that you keep riding your C17. Your butt will eventually harden up accordingly.
If your only problem now is your sit bones, I suggest that that you keep riding your C17. Your butt will eventually harden up accordingly.
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I adore both my B17 and my C17.
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I think it is the SRX3. Its really hard and flat and light and very comfortable. I ride regularly, hard, and fairly aero.
(The Ergon SMC4.might be better for a more well rounded saddle).
With the C15, I get a little chafing and I think it might be a little more comfortable if I sat more upright. Its hard, a little too rounded (in an odd way) and chafes a little compared to the Ergon.
My fizik aliante seems to be shaped similarly to the C15 (I have the 142mm width version), but is comfortable in any position I use. I use that or the B15 for long rides over 3 hours...
That said - my friends swear by the infinity saddle for endurance and audax rides.
(The Ergon SMC4.might be better for a more well rounded saddle).
With the C15, I get a little chafing and I think it might be a little more comfortable if I sat more upright. Its hard, a little too rounded (in an odd way) and chafes a little compared to the Ergon.
My fizik aliante seems to be shaped similarly to the C15 (I have the 142mm width version), but is comfortable in any position I use. I use that or the B15 for long rides over 3 hours...
That said - my friends swear by the infinity saddle for endurance and audax rides.
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You never know what saddle will suit you until you try. Recommendations don't help much. Some like Brooks, some hate them, and I love them. Some love Fizik. I tried one and couldn't believe the pain that ensued, and quickly. We're all different down there, and no one wants to measure or examine closely, even if it were easy, so the best thing is trying saddles until you find a good one for you.
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Fizik, a division of saddle maker Selle Royale* , also has a range of products
wider 'unisex ' may not be in your favorite colors,,
because the importer targeted the female customers ..
*who also own Brooks , now..
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wider 'unisex ' may not be in your favorite colors,,
because the importer targeted the female customers ..
*who also own Brooks , now..
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The Rido 2 is designed to relieve pressure on sensitive areas. I use one on my Trek.
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I think it is the SRX3. Its really hard and flat and light and very comfortable. I ride regularly, hard, and fairly aero.
(The Ergon SMC4.might be better for a more well rounded saddle).
With the C15, I get a little chafing and I think it might be a little more comfortable if I sat more upright. Its hard, a little too rounded (in an odd way) and chafes a little compared to the Ergon.
My fizik aliante seems to be shaped similarly to the C15 (I have the 142mm width version), but is comfortable in any position I use. I use that or the B15 for long rides over 3 hours...
That said - my friends swear by the infinity saddle for endurance and audax rides.
(The Ergon SMC4.might be better for a more well rounded saddle).
With the C15, I get a little chafing and I think it might be a little more comfortable if I sat more upright. Its hard, a little too rounded (in an odd way) and chafes a little compared to the Ergon.
My fizik aliante seems to be shaped similarly to the C15 (I have the 142mm width version), but is comfortable in any position I use. I use that or the B15 for long rides over 3 hours...
That said - my friends swear by the infinity saddle for endurance and audax rides.
I just got off a B67 and got a Flyer instead. Did a long ride on it the Flyer today. It's like night and day difference. I was having chaffing/sore issues with the B67. I have been struggling with discomfort for a couple of months with saddles and this is my third different saddle hoping as time goes on that the Flyer is for me. The B67 is just not really made for doing 30-70 or 100 kilometer rides on a regular basis with.
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You never know what saddle will suit you until you try. Recommendations don't help much. Some like Brooks, some hate them, and I love them. Some love Fizik. I tried one and couldn't believe the pain that ensued, and quickly. We're all different down there, and no one wants to measure or examine closely, even if it were easy, so the best thing is trying saddles until you find a good one for you.
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It's difficult when you don't have the luxury of shelling out hundred or hundreds of dollars at a pop to figure it out though. I don't know if something like the Fizik can be returned easily if you don't like it. But with things like Brooks saddles, once you rip it out of the packaging, it is pretty much yours. If it doesn't work out for you but takes a few hundred miles to figure that out, that can be quite and expensive lessons until you find the right seat.
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