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Old 07-01-19, 07:19 PM
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Out front mount for Garmin

I want to move my Garmin computer from off the handlebars, to out front. There are billion of them on Amazon from $7 to $50. Any recommendations for a decent one that will last and not cost $50+

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Old 07-01-19, 07:26 PM
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https://www.amazon.com/VeloChampion-...tronics&sr=1-1

I have three .... they work great. Very stable.
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Old 07-01-19, 07:54 PM
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Old 07-01-19, 09:43 PM
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Garmin's Out Front mount
Bar Fly 4
K-Edge if you want the best, or want to mount a camera/light as well as a computer.
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Old 07-02-19, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by RGMN
Bar Fly 4
I own four of these. They are excellent and come with GoPro mounts for lights and cameras.

https://barflybike.com/collections/road-bike-mounts

You get what you pay for.




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In the past I have used the K-Edge mounts. They are well made and come in different colors. They are a good choice.

Recently, however, I have switched to the Garmin out front mount. They are are also solid, well made and the aesthetics fit better with bikes. Here is a link:

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/114881

If you have a Garmin Varia headlight, or some other similar device, you may want to look into the Garmin Varia specific mount. It is a very solid platform.

https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/52...n/010-12384-00

There are lots of good choices out there. Having your Garmin out front, where it can be easily seen is far better than a stem mount.

Good luck and ride safely.
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Old 07-02-19, 06:31 AM
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I have several bikes and one Garmin Edge 1000.
I bought 2 of the cheap Chinese out-front mounts on eBay for a couple of the bikes.
They look/work exactly like the Garmin mount except for the lack of the "Garmin" logo.
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I have 2.

I use the one that came with my Garmin package. The out front version that has Garmin printed on it. Works just fine. I also have a K-edge one that has the go pro mount on the bottom. I prefer the k-edge one its made really well and its nice looking. But it was $50+ too!! I have not had an issue with either.

Here is the kedge I have:
https://k-edge.com/shop/computer-mou...n-combo-mount/

and the Garmin:
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Originally Posted by event horizon
I've used both stem mount and out front. Still do.

I don't see (pun intended) any difference between the two let alone that the out front is "far better." A brief glance down let's me read my Garmin regardless of where it's mounted.
Wonderful if it works for you.

out front remains a far superior choice for most riders.

Ride safely, enjoy the ride.
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Old 07-02-19, 10:50 AM
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I never understood the need for an out front mount when it fit on my stem.
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I believe I'll notice a difference when I get my out front mount on. Although it's minor, when wearing my sunglasses, I have to tilt my head down more to read my display, the bottom rim of my Oakley's are in the way. I'm thinking, putting the computer out there 1"+ farther will eliminate that.

Regardless....thanks for all the input.

Cheers!
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I never understood the need for an out front mount when it fit on my stem.
probably just boils down to personal preference really. I like the out front because I an look down and see my numbers and get my eyes on the road a tad bit quicker than looking at the stem. I know it seems silly but that may matter someday? Who knows, I just like it out in front of my bars instead of on them.

if we didn't buy fancy out front mounts what then would we spend our money on?!
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I never understood the need for an out front mount when it fit on my stem.
You will understand when you try one.

And don't listen to anyone on this thread. Barfly is the superior choice.


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Old 07-02-19, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by event horizon
A Barfly is a good compromise if your face plate can't accept an integrated mount. My Barfly sits in the back of a drawer now.
Don't most faceplate mounts preclude adjusting the angle? Not trying to challenge. Sincerely asking.

I know some are slotted and allow angle adjustment. Barfly makes one.

https://barflybike.com/collections/r...ly-race-direct

Asking because all my GPS' are set up level for aero and style. Using the faceplate bolts has them pointing up. The ability to mount to the faceplate, have the GPS level and also use a light on the GoPro mount underneath would be nice. My concern would be putting lots of weight on the stem faceplate.


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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Don't most faceplate mounts preclude adjusting the angle? Not trying to challenge. Sincerely asking.

I know some are slotted and allow angle adjustment. Barfly makes one.

https://barflybike.com/collections/r...ly-race-direct

Asking because all my GPS' are set up level for aero and style. Using the faceplate bolts has them pointing up. The ability to mount to the faceplate, have the GPS level and also use a light on the GoPro mount underneath would be nice. My concern would be putting lots of weight on the stem faceplate.


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I think the aero penalty from angling a computer up like a ramp is more than people realize.

In another thread in another forum, we were talking about the life long influence of formative experiences. The guest really nice bike I rode was at a test ride event, I had bright my bike in for maintenance and that offered me a way to ride for an hour while they worked on mine. All of the test bikes had cateye computers mounted on the stems, compared to mine on the bars with a light and who knows what else. That's probably had some effect on my preference.

Now I use a wrist watch instead of a bike computer.
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I bought one of these as I too like stuff out front.

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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
I never understood the need for an out front mount when it fit on my stem.
When I am on the drops:
- With a stem mount, I need to tilt my face toward the ground to read it.
- With an out-front mount, I only need to move my eyes to glance downward.

An additional plus is that an out-front mount leaves the stem clear to grab when walking the bike.
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I've had this one for 2 years. I wanted the Gopro mount underneath. It's well built and no issues. www.amazon.com/Dymoece-Front-Computer-Garmin
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I'm really not a fan of cantilevered loads anchored to the stems face plate bolts.

A cantilever is attached at only one end. The weight hangs at the other end and the load causes the structure to act as a lever against the anchor point.




Stem face plates are designed to provide clamping force in line with the stem. They are not designed to support bending loads which actually pull the bolts at an angle to the stem.

I'm sure some heavier stems support the load just fine but am simply encouraging people to be careful and consider what they are asking their stem to do vs what it was actually designed to do. Some stems are extremely light and I'd hate for a cracked stem or face plate to take someone out.


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Originally Posted by event horizon
So you are claiming that the folks at Enve, for example(who happen to manufacture and design extremely light stems), have failed to do the most basic engineering calcs for a product that they have brought to market?

Since you have made this Chicken Little claim about cracked stems or face pates due to stem-mounted out front mounts, surely you have many examples of these failures. Right?

"Failed to do the most basic engineering calcs" are not my words.

My words were "Not a fan" and "Encouraging people to be careful and consider."

I think the fact that the ENVE face plate mount does not have a GoPro attachment is telling. My guess is that they did do their diligence and are unwilling to allow people to place heavier cantilevered loads on their stems, which I agree are pretty light.

Anyone who wants a truly light stem should look at the Extralite Hyperstem. The 90 mm version is 73 grams vs 122 grams for the ENVE road stem. The Extralite is also $100 less.

Whatever stem anyone wants to use, I'm just encouraging people to consider what they hang off the face plate bolts, that's all. Stems were not designed to support heavy cantilevered loads by the face plate bolts so just be careful and if you do, inspect often.


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Originally Posted by event horizon
Again, where are all of these examples of cracked stems and face plates? Heck, why don't you start with just a single example?

If it's true that "they are not designed to support bending loads which actually pull the bolts at an angle to the stem" then what evidence do you have of these failures?
Wow! Because TimothyH has not provided instances of cantilever failure, better judgement should be suspended? In a part that is in the critical (and completely non-redundant) path from the road through the front wheel, fork, steerer, stem and bars to the riders hands. Riders suffering real injuries from face plates coming un-bolted, the bolts breaking and the faceplates breaking have all been documented over the years. Torque wrenches, once rarely used,are now commonplace as there is little room for error. Stems keep getting lighter.

event horizon, you might just want to read up on Mohrs' circle of stresses. The cantilevered load that these units add to the bolt at the head is exactly what you would do if popping the heads off was your intent. Might never happen. But if you ride long enough, it might. Want to volunteer to do 20,000 miles of chipseal with the Envy and report back?

(I have an Element Bolt GPS on an out-front mount but it clamps on a 31.8 mm bar. Since mine is a 26.0. I simply wrap the bar with a couple of wraps of innertube.)

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