nal13

I found this old Schwinn Traveler in my parents garage, I went to take the back wheel off and didn't notice how a certain piece was on there. Can you tell me how to put it back together.



It's the piece on the steam that I don't get how it goes back on.



I have tried looking online, but I can't find any that have this system, they all either have the derailleur hanger or a screw that keeps it in place. Thanks

Bianchigirll 

what does the derailleur look like? can you turn the bike rightside up and hold the derailleur near the mounting hardware? what is the name on the derailleur?

foamyfern

Hey nal13, could you please add more pictures so we can get a better look?

nal13

Steev

Looks like the folded metal piece that is retained by the axle nut should be installed in the drop-out.

nal13

I don't even know where that one part came from, to be honest. Does that belong on the inside?

Bianchigirll 

OK let me find you a pic or two. that round washer looking thing goes to a fender or rack mount. the hook or 'claw' on the rear derailleur goes on the outside of the frame but under that mount hardware.

there should have been a small bolt and weird looking nut to hold the derailleur in the dropout slot.

the derailleur should not come off simply because the wheel was removed.

nal13

Do you know of any diagrams online to show where it belongs? I can't figure it out.

Bianchigirll 

this is the bolt and 'nut' to hold the RD https://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...d=529992627690

they may be around the area somewhere

nal13

Ok, I think it was assembled wrong to being with, that would explain why the bike simple didn't work. I didn't think the derailleur was suppose to come off so easily. I found this bike in the back of my parents garage, nobody here has ever rode it or even really know where it came from.

kludgefudge

to me that little bracket thing looks like it may have been part of a mount for some kind of accessory-Light, fender, rat trap...whatever. I would say remove it and install the derailleur as per usual.

EDIT oh I see you don't have the little part to reassembe correctly. time to hit up the local bike co-op.

Bianchigirll 

unless there is a fender or rack on the bike I would disgard that round looking thing. any of you guys have a pic or two of a RD like this (with a hanger) installed?

this is not the best pic but maybe it will help

https://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/...0,0,0&format=0

Bianchigirll 

OK on short notice this is the best pic I can find. there may be a tutoral on the park tool website.

with the wheel off the derailleur gets mounted to the dropout with the bolt and 'nut' in the earlier link. the nut should rest in the dropout slot all the way to the back then get tightened down

then the wheel goes on after the deraileur is mounted. the axlenut should not be holding the RD in place.

nal13

Ok, so basically I have to order that part you are saying? I guess I was screwed to begin with, and I was getting so frustrated. My girlfriend has a bicycle manual that might have some good diagrams, I will be there tonight.

That weird washer thing is nothing then? Just leave that off the bike?

AndrewP

I think the channel shape fits in the drop-out slot in front of the axle, and the pin on the opposite side fits in the hole at the back of the hanger. Perhaps this piece is on the axle with the wrong side facing outwards. Just guessing.

The Slow One

Here's a link (ebay) with a bike that looks like yours. It has a picture of the derailleur installed the way it should be. Looks like you need to get rid of the doo-hickey.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622

dabac

Not really. The part missing from the derailer claw is simply there to hold it im place when the wheel is removed. While the derailer claw is clamped to the dropout by the axle nut your missing part doesn't contribute anything.
Going without it means that you have to eyeball the alignment of both derailer and wheel when you tighten down on the axle nut, that's all.
A minor inconvenience when tinkering but a non-issue while riding.

For the strange washer thingy I'm leaning towards Bianchigirls idea of it being some sort of rack/fender bracket. Maybe something to hook a pannier to to prevent it from bouncing upwards?

Or maybe, with a stretch of the imagination it's another take on the old idea of "lawyer lips", something to thread over the axle and hook in to the edge of the dropout to prevent the wheel from coming away even if the axle nuts aren't done up right. Anyway, I don't think that you need it.

dperreno

Make sure you route the cable properly outside and above the axle/derailleur (your earlier picture showed the cable running behind the derailleur, not good!)

EAA

If that unidentified doohickey is round (the part that sticks out, not the part flush with the dropout), I think it might be for a "visibility" flag. It seems like I remember them looking like that way back when, that is way back though and my memory may not be accurate.

nal13

Thanks everyone.

Sadly I won't see this bike for another week or two. When I get up to my parents again though, trust me, I will be fixing this bike up. I think it would be great for tooling around St.Paul, when I move there in a month.

CACycling

+1 I think we have a winner!

Get rid of it and get a screw from the LBS or hardware store to reattach the derailer properly and you should be in business.

Wanderer

Any LBS should have that bolt and nut..... It was a pretty common part.

nal13

Maybe I should find a flag to put on it.

nal13

The only thing I don't understand is where does the bolt that goes through the derailleur screw into? There is no hold on the actual bike for it.

The Slow One

It goes into the same slot that the axle slides into.

As described in the part description: https://www.loosescrews.com/index.cgi...d=529992627690

That's the way they did it in the old days... and maybe some bikes still do,

EDIT:

And this pic of an adapter claw might help: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_aa-l.html#adaptor

2nd EDIT: Once you actually get the bolt and nut, you'll see that it is shaped to partially fit into the dropout. You may be able to see that if you look closely at the picture and realize the reason it's shaped the way it is.