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Old 04-20-18, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd
IIRC, in lower categories it's easier to get a decent result off an early jump - a lot of newer guys are weak in the 1 minute range, less alert in the final minute, and less willing to close a gap with a minute to go. In 2/3 and 1/2 races it's tough to have energy left at 1 minute to go, but those that do are ON IT. Plus they have teammates/leadouts. It's also hard to tell what kind of rider you are in cat 4. You could be a breakaway guy that hasn't figured out how to get the break to stick. Or a sprinter that hasn't figured out how to position well without blowing your sprint.
I'm learning that I have underestimated the utility of the early jump in my lower category races. If I'm a higher cat, I'm probably more willing to cover a gap for my team. But the disorganization of these lower cat races means that guys are less likely to want to sacrifice themselves. Unless they think it's in their own interest. But yeah I can imagine at the higher levels, it's going to take an extraordinary move to win.

In the crits I participate in, it seems that breakaways almost always win the 3/4 and 1/2/3 races. So breakaways have to be part of my toolkit if I'm going to have success in the future.
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Originally Posted by Radish_legs
So breakaways have to be part of my toolkit if I'm going to have success in the future.
Two seasons ago, only one of about 25 of our local p/1/2 or 1/2/3 races finished in a field sprint. The break was successful in every other race.

Definitely have to be strong enough to get in those if you want to ever race for the win. But as mentioned, being in the break can be easier than being in the field. You just have to be able to get into the break, which can be very tough at times.
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Old 04-21-18, 07:34 AM
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I was in a break for the vast majority a crit a few weeks ago. My AP/NP was very comparable to my teammate (very similar size to me, but lighter) who was in the field.
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Old 05-01-18, 01:46 AM
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that sucks man..

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Old 05-02-18, 09:13 AM
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my first successful leadout.

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Old 05-02-18, 09:33 AM
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Alvin got carried.
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Old 05-02-18, 09:48 AM
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if you look closely, there’s a bunch of disc brakes in the bike pile.

on top of that, dude at the med tent with me had disc brakes - said he locked it up and skidded in to the bike pile...

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Old 05-02-18, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Radish_legs
my first successful leadout.

https://youtu.be/LdPvj9Eqevg
Weird that no one sprinted out of the saddle. And Alvin just kinda surged away. Why did that other guy let him go?
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Old 05-02-18, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd
Weird that no one sprinted out of the saddle. And Alvin just kinda surged away. Why did that other guy let him go?
This is a cat 3/4 race. The most feared sprinter types were further back, didn't finish in the top 10. Not sure why. Burned too many matches earlier? Didn't care to sprint for 4th? Or maybe the pace was too high and nothing left in the tank. That guy behind Alvin was letting gaps open way before the sprint. I think he was gassed. He's a rider I'm not familiar with, don't know what his strength are. My NP for the race was in the 290s. I chased the break, I patrolled the front, and paced the group back to flyers. Pretty happy with my relative fitness, esp since I've been sick the past week. Funny thing is that Alvin is a newly minted cat 4.
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Ahhh, dude. That's so gnarly. Sucks! Hope you heal up fast.

I saw a vid of that from someone at the finish line and it looked sick. Just a wave of people piling on. Rough intro to PRTs!
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Originally Posted by rubiksoval
Ahhh, dude. That's so gnarly. Sucks! Hope you heal up fast.

I saw a vid of that from someone at the finish line and it looked sick. Just a wave of people piling on. Rough intro to PRTs!
Yeah saw that - it was like the Pro Tour crashes on TV!!

I knew there would be crashes in that race, and was more or less "ready" to go down.. but not ****ing three laps in!!
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Yeah saw that - it was like the Pro Tour crashes on TV!!

I knew there would be crashes in that race, and was more or less "ready" to go down.. but not ****ing three laps in!!
You lasted longer than I did when we raced the crit at Masters Nationals. I went down at the start of the second lap - granted, I was able to get a neutral wheel and jump back in for a bit.
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Barrio Logan p/1/2 in San Diego. This was the day before the pileup @ Dana Point.


I'll make an edited version, for now you'll need to suffer through 75 minutes of it like I did! Actually the last few laps are where the action is at, as you would imagine. It was a fun race.
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Faced a dilemma in this race. teammate and 1 other guy up the road in 2nd lap, the heavy favorite to win attacked to bridge. I was the first person to try and mark him. Along with a teammate, but we are dragging the group toward the favorite. Ended up almost putting another team's sprinter in the breakaway was a result, when I sat up and stopped chasing. Also the dilemma of "racing for first" (i.e. trying to stop the favorite from winning, by preventing him from getting in a winning breakaway) versus "racing for the podium" (team resigned to compete for 2nd or 3rd).

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raceride video from a dude out here. You can see me around 10min pushing a lady up the first hills, then not really again.

Mostly just want you all to see how many guys we get out on a tuesday, and how nice the roads are.

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raceride video from a dude out here. You can see me around 10min pushing a lady up the first hills, then not really again.

Mostly just want you all to see how many guys we get out on a tuesday, and how nice the roads are.
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She's the DS for the Tibco pro team, ex olympian, etc. Riding right now with a broken pelvis or she wouldn't need any help.
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Old 05-10-18, 09:05 AM
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8th place in my first A crit. The winner is a previous winner of Dirty Kanzaa. One of the guys in the sprint finish with me, I had just been watching in previous weeks on televised feed of crit week. So definitely a different level than what I am used to in the C crits.


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Originally Posted by mattm
Barrio Logan p/1/2 in San Diego. This was the day before the pileup @ Dana Point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOFYqGFMP6M

I'll make an edited version, for now you'll need to suffer through 75 minutes of it like I did! Actually the last few laps are where the action is at, as you would imagine. It was a fun race.
That race is really decided on/just before the last time up the hill. Really hard to gain any spots after that
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Old 05-10-18, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdGaw1qkPns

raceride video from a dude out here. You can see me around 10min pushing a lady up the first hills, then not really again.

Mostly just want you all to see how many guys we get out on a tuesday, and how nice the roads are.
I miss those roads

Will be out that way next week, trying to get a Saturday ride together with some friends for Hwy 9 -> West Alpine -> Coffee in Pescadero -> Tunitas. You're more than welcome to join if that sounds relevant to your interests.
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I miss those roads

Will be out that way next week, trying to get a Saturday ride together with some friends for Hwy 9 -> West Alpine -> Coffee in Pescadero -> Tunitas. You're more than welcome to join if that sounds relevant to your interests.
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