Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Non-bike C&V repairs

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Non-bike C&V repairs

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-23-17, 11:50 AM
  #1  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
Thread Starter
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7346 Post(s)
Liked 2,452 Times in 1,430 Posts
Non-bike C&V repairs

My wife's piano bench got really wobbly, and she asked me to fix it. Some rods had fallen out of the mechanism and gone missing. Figuring out how to disassemble the bench and get the mechanism out was hard work. There are dozens of screws and rods and brass bushings. The bench is the kind that can go up and down when you turn the knobs at the ends. I don't know how old it is. It is immensely heavy. Turning it over and bending over it were some aspects of the difficulty.

I managed to do it. The construction and materials used and the workmanship on this thing are impressive. I wonder if they are this well made nowadays. The pantograph rods appear to be brass. The steel base of the mechanism is massive, as is the threaded rod.

The hardware didn't have brass rod, so I used steel. The guy working there cut the rod into the lengths I needed.

I cleaned up the hardened grime from the places where metal moves against metal and added lubrication.









__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Likes For noglider:
Old 01-23-17, 01:20 PM
  #2  
due ruote 
Senior Member
 
due ruote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,454
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 904 Post(s)
Liked 527 Times in 320 Posts
Nice job!

I just refurbed some c. 1970 KLH speakers; completely rebuilt the crossovers etc. Easier than your project but rewarding, and they sound great now.

Do you know this one?

Mend it, fix it,
Wear it out.
Make it do
Or do without.
due ruote is offline  
Old 01-23-17, 07:13 PM
  #3  
squirtdad
Senior Member
 
squirtdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,835

Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,813 Times in 1,536 Posts
C&V skills translate to other areas, clearly.
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)



squirtdad is offline  
Old 01-23-17, 07:13 PM
  #4  
markwesti
Senior Member
 
markwesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Seal Beach Ca. On the right , next to Long Beach
Posts: 1,815

Bikes: 86' Centurion Ironman

Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 628 Post(s)
Liked 315 Times in 175 Posts
I have been working on this little but capable Craftsman/Atlas 618 lathe it's from the 40s' .

markwesti is offline  
Old 01-23-17, 07:20 PM
  #5  
exmechanic89
Senior Member
 
exmechanic89's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Richmond VA area
Posts: 2,618

Bikes: '00 Koga Miyata Full Pro Oval Road bike.

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 475 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 7 Posts
JB Weld is my friend..
exmechanic89 is offline  
Likes For exmechanic89:
Old 01-23-17, 09:07 PM
  #6  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
Thread Starter
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7346 Post(s)
Liked 2,452 Times in 1,430 Posts
Thank you, @squirtdad. I'm not actually that confident, because my skill set isn't all that broad. I'm a lousy carpenter, and I totally failed at hanging sheetrock.

@markwesti, I love machines from that period.

I suspect this piano bench is from the 60s or 70s because it has the label that certifies that the material is all new and the label can only be removed by the consumer, i.e. the same label that comes on mattresses and pillows.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 01-23-17, 09:25 PM
  #7  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,533

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts
My favorite C&V work


Sweating cooper pipe is cool too, but now pex is so much faster.

Just put this circa 1923 home under contract and hope to start upgrading in March. Four car garage!

Last edited by oddjob2; 01-23-17 at 09:33 PM.
oddjob2 is offline  
Likes For oddjob2:
Old 01-24-17, 12:17 PM
  #8  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
Thread Starter
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7346 Post(s)
Liked 2,452 Times in 1,430 Posts
Hey @oddjob2, that's really cool. So is there a homeforumrepairs.net or something like that? I need to pick up skills.
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Old 01-24-17, 01:23 PM
  #9  
Roger M
Banned.
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Snohomish, WA.
Posts: 2,866
Mentioned: 33 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 469 Post(s)
Liked 2,442 Times in 646 Posts
I've done a crapload of repairs on this 1988 Volvo. It's pushing 450k, so replacing parts is to be expected.

Struts and Ball joints



This was the biggest pain in the ass job to do on any car I've worked on... Heater core and blower motor

Roger M is offline  
Old 01-24-17, 01:30 PM
  #10  
Mike from Iowa
Junior Member
 
Mike from Iowa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 116

Bikes: 1939 The James Arrow Ace Convertible Touring Tandem, 1950 Dunelt cruiser, 1960 Robin Hood Sports, 1972 Humber Sports, 1986 Panasonic Touring Deluxe

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 17 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 61 Times in 19 Posts
Originally Posted by oddjob2
My favorite C&V work


Sweating cooper pipe is cool too, but now pex is so much faster.

Just put this circa 1923 home under contract and hope to start upgrading in March. Four car garage!
Don't you mean 34 bike garage?
Mike from Iowa is offline  
Likes For Mike from Iowa:
Old 01-24-17, 06:32 PM
  #11  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,533

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
Hey @oddjob2, that's really cool. So is there a homeforumrepairs.net or something like that? I need to pick up skills.
I used to learn a lot watching Bob Vila and Norm Abrams. Now, TOH is more about RE porn, although they are beginning to cover Detroit's Renaissance.

Lots of video on youtube.
The Sunset series below are a godsend and cheap;
https://www.amazon.com/Basic-home-wiring-illustrated-Sunset/dp/0376010940
Also, Fine Homebuilding Magazine DVD

Tom, your cool West Village loft doesn't appear to need work. If you need help in the Hudson Valley, let me know as I must pass by it 4 times a year.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 11-20-19, 06:18 PM
  #12  
thumpism 
Bikes are okay, I guess.
 
thumpism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938

Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT

Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times in 1,557 Posts
I need to test my fuel pressure on my '87 VW Vanagon Westy. My van won't run long enough to get me to the FLAPS so borrowing one of their tools might be out. I did price a set at Harbor Freight yesterday but it appears that all the connection fittings are clamp on or press on, no threaded ones to fit the fuel T in the engine compartment. Hmmm, is that safe?



Removed the little bolt (see above) to check the size and checked against my stash of bike parts, figuring what I need is a bicycle brake barrel adjuster to use as the thread-in piece to clamp a hose onto. Knew immediately that the size would be a problem since most adjusters are 6mm diameter by 1mm threading. Too big. I also remembered that old French 10-speeds used very small adjusting barrels so it was off to the co-op to check out the scrounge boxes. Bless their hearts, I found two Huret Allvit rear derailleurs with adjusters intact and scavenged them. I'm working in a gravel driveway and I will drop one of them. That's the law.

Anyway, now that I have the piece I can buy a gauge and do my testing, fully aware that my "Goddam, I'm freakin' brilliant" feeling might well come crashing down on me.

Below: Typical adjuster on top, with screw from my bin that matches the threading on the T bolt that I used to search for the smaller barrel.


Hooray for French bikes!


It has since been recommended that I only need to press a test hose onto that barb once the bolt is removed, so my "freakin' brilliant" glow is turning to "Oh, never mind."

Last edited by thumpism; 11-20-19 at 06:21 PM.
thumpism is offline  
Old 11-20-19, 06:37 PM
  #13  
TiHabanero
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,457
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1741 Post(s)
Liked 1,369 Times in 718 Posts
Roger M, we just picked up a 1988 Volvo 240 with 38000 miles on it. Literally looks like a new car, but I am doing a full service on it before we start using it. Including shocks and struts because it is so old. Had two 240s years ago with over 200,000 each, and they were easy to work on. Very happy I never had to replace wiper armature or blower motor. Two nightmarish jobs.
TiHabanero is offline  
Old 11-20-19, 06:37 PM
  #14  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,241
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1137 Post(s)
Liked 588 Times in 420 Posts
Wish I would've taken before/after pics of it. 9yo came to me today, got one of those infernal fidget spinners from a classmate. Covered in some mystery paint, top to bottom, in every groove. "Please fix this, I see what you do with the cars and the bikes. This is the same stuff, right? Mechanical."

Challenge accepted? The thing was chunky, spun like a badly indexed headset. Was hoping the crap painted on it was water-based, so I soaked it in dish soap and hot water for a couple hours. Nada. Didn't even soften it.

Took it into the shop. Took a smidge of PB Blaster and rubbed across, *shloop* my finger saw a slurry of whatever it was, we have a winner. So I slathered on some more, let it sit, brushed it, let it sit, brushed it. Repeated 'til clean. Turns out this thing was actually blue at one time in its life.

The PBB got in there enough to loosen the center pivot, so I unscrewed the two halves, got access to the unsealed bearing, 3-in-1 in there, spin-spin-spin, flush, Finish Line'd it, blue Loctite on the fastener, screwed it back together. Took a little extra work to clean out the slots in the arms, but everything was pretty well softened from the PBB.

There's still some little traces of white, blue, yellow and green paint in some of the nooks and crannies, but the thing spins for 2-3 minutes straight with one good throw. My kids' smiles were priceless when they saw how long it'd run for. Just gotta let it sit up overnight for that Loctite to harden. May replace the blue with some red. Not sure yet.

But yes, C&V definitely translates to other things.

francophile is offline  
Likes For francophile:
Old 11-20-19, 07:04 PM
  #15  
dedhed
SE Wis
 
dedhed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 10,501

Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2741 Post(s)
Liked 3,388 Times in 2,051 Posts
Replaced the rotted out blade on my vintage plow truck with a bit better one. Of course every time I get it that truck it might be the last.





All Done


Got it off.


Old one was already patched a few times.
dedhed is offline  
Likes For dedhed:
Old 11-20-19, 07:41 PM
  #16  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,241
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1137 Post(s)
Liked 588 Times in 420 Posts
PS:
Originally Posted by thumpism
Hooray for French bikes!
Hell yes!

(PPS: ZOMBIE THREAD!!!)
francophile is offline  
Old 11-20-19, 08:08 PM
  #17  
thumpism 
Bikes are okay, I guess.
 
thumpism's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Richmond, Virginia
Posts: 6,938

Bikes: Waterford Paramount Touring, Giant CFM-2, Raleigh Sports 3-speeds in M23 & L23, Schwinn Cimarron oddball build, Marin Palisades Trail dropbar conversion, Nishiki Cresta GT

Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2647 Post(s)
Liked 2,446 Times in 1,557 Posts
Originally Posted by francophile
ZOMBIE THREAD!!!
I knew that, but at less than three years since the previous post it's more of a Nap Van Winkle thread.
thumpism is offline  
Likes For thumpism:
Old 11-20-19, 08:15 PM
  #18  
francophile 
PM me your cotters
 
francophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: ATL
Posts: 3,241
Mentioned: 80 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1137 Post(s)
Liked 588 Times in 420 Posts
Originally Posted by thumpism
I knew that, but at less than three years since the previous post it's more of a Nap Van Winkle thread.
I'm not mad! Former owner of several VWs too, so I'm not mad about that either
francophile is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 08:26 AM
  #19  
easyupbug 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,675

Bikes: too many sparkly Italians, some sweet Americans and a couple interesting Japanese

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 567 Post(s)
Liked 563 Times in 405 Posts
Originally Posted by oddjob2
My favorite C&V work


Sweating cooper pipe is cool too, but now pex is so much faster.

Could not agree more. This summer I re-plumbed our 1940's hand hewed log cabin pulling all the galvanized pipe out of the crawl space. I love copper having spent 32 years in the copper industry, but will never touch it again after using PEX and Sharkbites, no doubt saved me days of work. Sweating copper on your back in a 18" crawl space full of spiders is a slow go.
easyupbug is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 08:59 AM
  #20  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,533

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts






Glue Lam in place and temp support wall framing


New joists and 8' opening.


Final copper rough in


New DWV to be boxed in with soffit.


Risers
Originally Posted by easyupbug
Could not agree more. This summer I re-plumbed our 1940's hand hewed log cabin pulling all the galvanized pipe out of the crawl space. I love copper having spent 32 years in the copper industry, but will never touch it again after using PEX and Sharkbites, no doubt saved me days of work. Sweating copper on your back in a 18" crawl space full of spiders is a slow go.
Moving my parents in 2018 to Grosse Pointe so that I can assist them in their twilight has been an overwhelming time suck; daily housekeeping, cooking, financial management, transportation, and income tax matters. That's just for dad as mom is in memory care. Time has been scarce for remodeling.

The 95 y.o. house in my earlier post had a crappy 1950's bath remodel that compromised the floor framing and caused tile cracking. It is a small house with one full bath and an obsolete basement full bath. The original supply pipes were iron.

In the process of remodeling, I removed the wall between kitchen and dining room and framed new joists for the upper bathroom. As a repipe project I removing two ill configured closets to make room for 2 baths upstairs, added a powder room on the main level in a minimal dimension closet, and repiped the basement bath for dog shampoos. Since I am not an expert in laying out DWV, I hired out the rough plumbing, which was completed yesterday. It took 6 months to find a decent plumber and ended up working with my S.O.'s sibling's outfit.

Last edited by oddjob2; 11-21-19 at 09:33 AM.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 09:11 AM
  #21  
CV-6 
If I own it, I ride it
 
CV-6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cardinal Country
Posts: 5,579

Bikes: Lejeune(14), Raleigh, Raysport, Jan De Reus, Gazelle, Masi, B. Carré(4), Springfield, Greg Lemond, Andre Bertin, Schwinn Paramount

Mentioned: 55 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 591 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 662 Times in 311 Posts
Originally Posted by oddjob2
My favorite C&V work


Sweating cooper pipe is cool too, but now pex is so much faster.

Just put this circa 1923 home under contract and hope to start upgrading in March. Four car garage!
Don't you mean two cars and a bike workshop?

Ooops I have been zombied.
__________________
Please do not "like" my posts. This isn't Facebook.

Lynn Travers

Photos

CV-6 is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 09:40 AM
  #22  
David Newton
Wood
 
David Newton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Beaumont, Tx
Posts: 2,293

Bikes: Raleigh Sports: hers. Vianelli Professional & Bridgestone 300: mine

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
I use a lot of my bike-repairing skills to augment my guitar-repairing skills, and vice versa.



David Newton is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 09:42 AM
  #23  
oddjob2
Still learning
 
oddjob2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: North of Canada, Adirondacks
Posts: 11,533

Bikes: Still a garage full

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 847 Post(s)
Liked 66 Times in 44 Posts

Originally Posted by CV-6
Don't you mean two cars and a bike workshop?

Ooops I have been zombied.
An opportunity to buy my next door neighbor's home came up. Living with my dad in a 2 br/1 bath is not cutting it. So now I have 2 projects within a block. This house needs new kitchen, interior paint, floor refinish, new lighting, wiring, central AC, and a new driveway. Bathroom updating too, but not likely to the studs. With 2 more garages. Finally, enough real estate to accommodate my furnishings, the MCM furnishings from my parents, four vehicles, and too many bikes.


Powder room

Last edited by oddjob2; 11-21-19 at 09:56 AM.
oddjob2 is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 11:10 AM
  #24  
squirtdad
Senior Member
 
squirtdad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: San Jose (Willow Glen) Ca
Posts: 9,835

Bikes: Kirk Custom JK Special, '84 Team Miyata,(dura ace old school) 80?? SR Semi-Pro 600 Arabesque

Mentioned: 106 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2337 Post(s)
Liked 2,813 Times in 1,536 Posts
Originally Posted by thumpism


It has since been recommended that I only need to press a test hose onto that barb once the bolt is removed, so my "freakin' brilliant" glow is turning to "Oh, never mind."
I hate when that happens....which is all to often for me.....at least I as brilliant for a bit
__________________
Life is too short not to ride the best bike you have, as much as you can
(looking for Torpado Super light frame/fork or for Raleigh International frame fork 58cm)



squirtdad is offline  
Old 11-21-19, 12:14 PM
  #25  
ascherer 
Senior Member
 
ascherer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan & Woodstock NY
Posts: 2,745

Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, early '70s Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1

Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 938 Post(s)
Liked 2,923 Times in 977 Posts
Another zombie thread rises!
When I was a kid I put myself in the "all thumbs" category. After I was taught how to wrench and build wheels at age 15, I became confident in my ability to disassemble and reassemble anything. My parents must have been surprised when I stripped my other prized object, a vintage Hasselblad camera. Yes, the skills transfer.
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, 197? Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1971 Raleigh International, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 2016 Dawes Streetfighter, 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1975 Motobecane Jubile Mixte, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1973 Free Spirit Ted Williams, 1972 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Philips Sport





ascherer is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.