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Old 12-09-19, 10:26 AM
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Weird Giant?

I have an odd Giant bike that I am fixing up for my daughter. It is a short frame which I believe is a 48. It has a 700c rim on the back and a 24 inch on the front.
It was made this way and I can't seem to find any information about it. I had Giant check their serial number database and it doesn't seem to match anything they have.
I can't seem to attach a picture. I am new to this forum and maybe I am doing something wrong. Has anyone ever run across a bike like this?
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Originally Posted by Billbob5757
I have an odd Giant bike that I am fixing up for my daughter. It is a short frame which I believe is a 48. It has a 700c rim on the back and a 24 inch on the front.
It was made this way and I can't seem to find any information about it. I had Giant check their serial number database and it doesn't seem to match anything they have.
I can't seem to attach a picture. I am new to this forum and maybe I am doing something wrong. Has anyone ever run across a bike like this?

Nine more posts and you'll be able to post pictures.

There's no model name on the bike? Does it just say "Giant"?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Nine more posts and you'll be able to post pictures.

There's no model name on the bike? Does it just say "Giant"?
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention it is a Kronos.
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Sounds like a Georgina Terry knockoff.
Maybe someone "rebadged" one

https://georgenaterry.com/refurbishi...-road-bicycle/
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Originally Posted by dedhed
Sounds like a Georgina Terry knockoff.
Maybe someone "rebadged" one

https://georgenaterry.com/refurbishi...-road-bicycle/
maybe it was a terry, and the previous owner put a giant sticker on it so it wouldn’t get stolen.
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maybe it was a terry, and the previous owner put a giant sticker on it so it wouldn’t get stolen.
Kinda what I was thinking, as there aren't a lot of companies that used that design, and I don't believe Giant was one of them.
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I dated a girl who was 4' 10". She wanted a new road bike but was having trouble finding something in her size. Went to a LBS that always seemed to have that odd thing that I was looking for. Owner went into the basement and brought up a Shogun frame with a 24" front wheel. Built her a nifty little ride that fit her from the frame up.
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Found this.
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It appears to be exactly like the picture except it does not have the dropped handlebars. Pretty sure it's a Giant.
Seems to have factory paint and lettering but it has some age on it.
Wish I could post a picture.
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Originally Posted by thumpism
Found this.

Looks like Giant did also make one.
Of course a NDS shot, and where's the white garage door background?

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^ Not my bike and not my photo. I'd have done better, I hope. And my garage door is brown...and mossy green.
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That's OK, you can always borrow a white garage door when you post your pic. The Rules(tm) are codified somewhere, and they included the white door requirement.
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This forum is frustrating for a new user. I guess you have to post a while in order to be able to attach a picture.
Also someone sent me a private message but the site won't let me read it as a new member.
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If this bike has any value as a collectible we may be interested in selling it. Seems the bike is made for a short person. Someone around 5 foot tall.
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Originally Posted by Billbob5757
This forum is frustrating for a new user. I guess you have to post a while in order to be able to attach a picture.
Also someone sent me a private message but the site won't let me read it as a new member.
It's to protect against spammers, etc. 10 posts will allow you to post photos.
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Originally Posted by Billbob5757
If this bike has any value as a collectible we may be interested in selling it. Seems the bike is made for a short person. Someone around 5 foot tall.
It's probably not that collectable. Even Terrys don't have that much value and they are of better quality. The bikes are good at what they are designed to do which is to fit small people...particularly small women. The design idea is solid if a little strange looking.

The front wheel isn't a 24", it's an ISO 520mm rim. It's a kind of odd size and can be a bit difficult to find. Bike shops aren't going to carry them because there is so little demand. They will have to order them and QBP (the largest parts wholesaler) doesn't carry them. J&B Importers currently does.
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The issue is "toe clip overlap".

You can't just shrink a big bicycle to make a small frame bicycle. You run into issues like wheel sizes and pedal to ground clearance. As you shorten the top tube to make a bike fit a shorter rider, eventually you will encounter toe to front wheel interference. Most of the time that's not an issue but, maneuvering through the parking lot after a long tiring ride is when you will most likely first discover the issue. Small frame bikes that have smaller front wheels can save you from an embarrassing fall.

When I had my shop I carried a few Terry bikes. I never had a short woman test ride one who didn't buy it.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
It's probably not that collectable. Even Terrys don't have that much value and they are of better quality. The bikes are good at what they are designed to do which is to fit small people...particularly small women. The design idea is solid if a little strange looking.

The front wheel isn't a 24", it's an ISO 520mm rim. It's a kind of odd size and can be a bit difficult to find. Bike shops aren't going to carry them because there is so little demand. They will have to order them and QBP (the largest parts wholesaler) doesn't carry them. J&B Importers currently does.

This one is actually a 24" rim. It looks newer than the back rim so it was probably replaced at some point.
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Originally Posted by Billbob5757
This one is actually a 24" rim. It looks newer than the back rim so it was probably replaced at some point.
There is no "actual 24" rim" because there are several different 24" rims and tires...and a lot of confusion about tire size. There's a 507mm rim which you find on child's mountain bikes, a 520mm rim which is the one that Terry uses, a 540mm rim which is also known as an E-5 for British children's bikes and wheel chairs, and a 547 which is also known as a S-5 and is an old Schwinn designation for juvenile lightweight bikes. Look at the tire for the size. While it may have been replaced, I doubt that it could have been replaced with anything other than a 520 since that is the only rim that will match up with the brakes and fit in the fork.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
There is no "actually 24" rim" because there are several different 24" rims and tires...and a lot of confusion about tire size. There's a 507mm rim which you find on child's mountain bikes, a 520mm rim which is the one that Terry uses, a 540mm rim which is also known as an E-5 for British children's bikes and wheel chairs, and a 547 which is also known as a S-5 and is an old Schwinn designation for juvenile lightweight bikes. Look at the tire for the size. While it may have been replaced, I doubt that it could have been replaced with anything other than a 520 since that is the only rim that will match up with the brakes and fit in the fork.

Just going by what is stamped on the rim, 24 x 1 1/8 Not sure about the tire size. You might be right.
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Originally Posted by Billbob5757
Just going by what is stamped on the rim, 24 x 1 1/8 Not sure about the tire size. You might be right.
Go by what's printed on the sidewall of the tire. Assuming its still mounted on the rim.
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Just going by what is stamped on the rim, 24 x 1 1/8 Not sure about the tire size. You might be right.
What cyccommute is trying to impress on you is that the rim itself isn't 24". With a 28mm tire mounted the wheel will measure something like 22.75" in diameter. A technicality, but it may be an important one in some cases. When buying tires, always go by the ISO number for the diameter. as there are 3 different 24" sizes, each incompatible with the other.
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Originally Posted by BlazingPedals
What cyccommute is trying to impress on you is that the rim itself isn't 24". With a 28mm tire mounted the wheel will measure something like 22.75" in diameter. A technicality, but it may be an important one in some cases. When buying tires, always go by the ISO number for the diameter. as there are 3 different 24" sizes, each incompatible with the other.
Absolutely.

Minor quibble 1: I'm trying to impress on Billbob5757 that not all 24" wheels are the same. Look at the tire and see what it says.

Minor quibble 2: Four different 24" sizes.

Minor quibble 2: It's not a "technicality". Each tire that is called a "24 inch tire" will not fit on the same rim.
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