Wrong Way Road Biking?
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But there are a number of roads in Boston, MA, Cambridge, (our fair city) MA, and Somerville, MA where it is legal to "salmon." We are "absolutely unsafe."
-mr. bill
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For 99.9% of my journey home at night, I cycle with traffic. But at the very last suburban block at night I cross over to the other side of the road and will walk my bike against traffic. I have a good reason for doing this: otherwise drivers will absolutely not let me cross over the crosswalk, even when I have all my lights on.
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Most of our local undocumented aliens ride on the wrong side of the road on their way to work (drivers licenses for non-residents not legal in NJ). If I pass one, I simply say "wrong side of the road" as courteously as possible.
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I'm a practical cyclist, and will always choose the path that endangers the least people, including myself. If that involves crossing a red light*, or cycling on the wrong side of the road, so be it. France, and many countries, allow some flexibility here, despite, possibly more than the poster ot that despicable comment.
I also note that there are few cyclists or other road users who would know there highway code by heart, nor would obey it 100%, including the Hokiedad4.
* This is permitted at some intersections in France. I am not endorsing the practice not remotely, merely saying that there are occasional exceptional circumstances where safety for all road users dictates discretion. If a policeman stops me and issues a fine afterwards, I'll accept that.
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Just dug the hole deeper for yourself, Hokiedad4. Editing a post that has already been quoted seldom works.
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No ill intent, just poorly written, so a clarification was in order.
I find it ironic that you are willing to give others the benefit of the doubt.
I find it ironic that you are willing to give others the benefit of the doubt.
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Sorry, missed the punch line - shamed, and so cured, I hadn't even been aware I'd been racist.
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It remains poorly written. 'Undocumented'?! You would know that how? Do you have the ability to determine proof of residency of total strangers visually? I was born in St. John's Hospital, Brooklyn, NY. I doubt you could determine that by looking at me. For that matter I would not be anymore able to determine where you were born by looking at you from 10' away. Until around 3 years ago most people wouldn't think it was any of their business where a total stranger was born or how they came to be wherever they happen to be 20 years later.
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They are doing what they think is safer.
When actually:
1. They are breaking state traffic law.
2. They are actually increasing the likelihood. That they will become a cycling fatality, via a head-on collision.
When actually:
1. They are breaking state traffic law.
2. They are actually increasing the likelihood. That they will become a cycling fatality, via a head-on collision.
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Is it against the law in all countries, including those that don't have states per se? If it isn't, then your second point is questionable, too., although, to be honest, most cyclists in countries where it was against the law would only do this in exceptional circumstances. That could include life threatening circumstances too, by the way.
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And how on Earth does the chances of a "head-on" collision INCREASE when both parties are staring into each other's eyes?
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Provided they beg for forgiveness, profusely, from every law-abiding cyclist they pass who's riding on the correct side of the road. But in my mind, the big question is, does the savvy salmon pass the law-abiding rider on the right side or the left side?
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Ever heard of STEERING? I mean, I can see the concern for two trains on the same track, or trolleys, or roller coasters. If it was a big deal there would be dead cyclists all over the place where I live.
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Riding against traffic isn't that dangerous unless there are side streets. People turning in from side streets often aren't expecting that reverse traffic and don't look that way.
And of course riding against traffic is problematic when you come up to a rider riding with traffic.
But on long stretches of road without side streets (or driveways) it's not dangerous to ride against traffic (but it might be illegal).
And of course riding against traffic is problematic when you come up to a rider riding with traffic.
But on long stretches of road without side streets (or driveways) it's not dangerous to ride against traffic (but it might be illegal).
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An oblivious cyclist is going to get clobbered on ANY street no matter their preferred direction. A savvy cyclist, with awareness and courtesy, should be quite capable of navigating the occasional one-way street contraflow without incident.