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Dedicated Trainer FRONT Wheel
Come late Fall, my riding will switch to indoor riding on the Wahoo Kickr. Being the first year I've run my bike with tubeless tires, this adds a new twist to indoor riding in that tubeless tires don't like to be stationary. When a tubeless tire is stationary, the sealant pools in one spot and starts drying-out in that spot
As such, do any of you run a dedicated front wheel on your trainer? I.e., a wheel that is only used while your bike is on the trainer?
I'm considering trying to find an inexpensive front wheel and put a solid tire on it. That way, I won't have to maintain tire pressure or be concerned about tubeless sealant. The hard part of this idea will be to find a single front wheel with a thru-axle hub that doesn't cost much as it won't be much more than a prop to hold up the front of my bike!
As such, do any of you run a dedicated front wheel on your trainer? I.e., a wheel that is only used while your bike is on the trainer?
I'm considering trying to find an inexpensive front wheel and put a solid tire on it. That way, I won't have to maintain tire pressure or be concerned about tubeless sealant. The hard part of this idea will be to find a single front wheel with a thru-axle hub that doesn't cost much as it won't be much more than a prop to hold up the front of my bike!
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Just remove the sealant.
Pressure isn't really a big issue - pump it up every two weeks or so; you can pump it up higher than you would on the road and let it drop lower than you would on the road.
Pressure isn't really a big issue - pump it up every two weeks or so; you can pump it up higher than you would on the road and let it drop lower than you would on the road.
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Isn't the tubeless wheel going to sit anyway if you get another dedicated front wheel? Yeah pressure doesn't matter on the front as it's just supporting the front end.
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Lots of solid tires on amazon and ebay.
You might think about making a stand instead, basically a piece of plywood and a small post with a fork mount screwed to the top. You'd wanna measure your dropouts and make sure you buy the right one to fit your bike, they come in TA and QR varieties so watch out.
You might think about making a stand instead, basically a piece of plywood and a small post with a fork mount screwed to the top. You'd wanna measure your dropouts and make sure you buy the right one to fit your bike, they come in TA and QR varieties so watch out.
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Go to a bike coop and buy a cheap front wheel. You can probably find one with rubber on it. $20? Keep it by the trainer.
Oh, you probably have a thru-axle so it's not that simple. I'll go hide my head under that rock that was new when this dinosaur was hatched.
Oh, you probably have a thru-axle so it's not that simple. I'll go hide my head under that rock that was new when this dinosaur was hatched.
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Doesn't the sealant pool in your tires when they sit in the garage? If you're concerned about it, you could pick up the front by the bars and spin the front wheel by hand a couple of turns to spread out the sealant.
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During "riding season" here in Wisconsin, the bike will only sit for a few days between rides, hence swishing the sealant around every few days. In Winter, it'll be on the trainer for months and months without moving, hence the risk of a big 'ol puddle of sealant drying in a single spot if it's not removed. I very well could just spin the front wheel before or after each indoor training session, but that sounds like work (and I'd likely forget.)
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LOL! Yeah... thru-axle wheels haven't hit the used market in large quantities as of yet. I suppose I'll follow @WhyFi's advice of just draining the sealant from the tires and keep the front tubeless tire on the bike. It shouldn't go flat unless Wahoo introduces an indoor tire flattening device for Zwift
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Just buy a Kickr Climb and be done with it. And a headwind. Cheapskate.
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My road bike is pampered and lives in the house, not the garage
During "riding season" here in Wisconsin, the bike will only sit for a few days between rides, hence swishing the sealant around every few days. In Winter, it'll be on the trainer for months and months without moving, hence the risk of a big 'ol puddle of sealant drying in a single spot if it's not removed. I very well could just spin the front wheel before or after each indoor training session, but that sounds like work (and I'd likely forget.)
During "riding season" here in Wisconsin, the bike will only sit for a few days between rides, hence swishing the sealant around every few days. In Winter, it'll be on the trainer for months and months without moving, hence the risk of a big 'ol puddle of sealant drying in a single spot if it's not removed. I very well could just spin the front wheel before or after each indoor training session, but that sounds like work (and I'd likely forget.)
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I purchased a much better tire sealant injector (on Amazon for $12) than the piece of junk Stans injector I had been using. The new injector has a little straw that will allow me to suck the sealant out of the tire w/o removing it, which is nice. So my plan for now is to simply remove as much sealant as possible in the winter months when the wheels won't be spinning. My assumption is that if I don't break the seal on my wheels, I shouldn't need any sealant resting in the tubes while my bike is on the trainer since Zwift hasn't invented "virtual nails in the tires" as of yet.
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Yup, that's what I was talking about in post #9 . Do yourself a favor and confirm that it'll fit in your valve stems, though - many stems won't allow it to pass all the way through and it may take some work to find stems that'll accommodate; seems to be a 50/50 chance.
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I purchased a much better tire sealant injector (on Amazon for $12) than the piece of junk Stans injector I had been using. The new injector has a little straw that will allow me to suck the sealant out of the tire w/o removing it, which is nice. So my plan for now is to simply remove as much sealant as possible in the winter months when the wheels won't be spinning. My assumption is that if I don't break the seal on my wheels, I shouldn't need any sealant resting in the tubes while my bike is on the trainer since Zwift hasn't invented "virtual nails in the tires" as of yet.
I have them on one of my bikes. It allows you to remove the core while still having enough air in the tire to keep the bead solidly in place. In fact, I have removed the core with the tire having 70 psi in it and it held without losing air. Look it up and see how it works.
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Oh sure, now you tell me about these spiffy valve stems after I've already spent too much on a different brand MILKIT appears to have all sorts of spiffy tools for tubeless setups.
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Caloso is right. It'll pool no matter where you store it. I do what others say. I ride mostly road and TT right now. Weekly I top up my cross bike tires and give them a little spin by hand.
Nothing else is needed.
Nothing else is needed.
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That would work perfectly with the "MILKIT valve stems".
I have them on one of my bikes. It allows you to remove the core while still having enough air in the tire to keep the bead solidly in place. In fact, I have removed the core with the tire having 70 psi in it and it held without losing air. Look it up and see how it works.
I have them on one of my bikes. It allows you to remove the core while still having enough air in the tire to keep the bead solidly in place. In fact, I have removed the core with the tire having 70 psi in it and it held without losing air. Look it up and see how it works.
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I've been interested in trying those. but I've been leery of the proprietary cores and some of the reviews (which I take with a grain of salt because people r dum). How long have you had them and what has your experience been so far? REI has had them on clearance, but only the shorties, which won't fit my rims, otherwise I'd have picked 'em up at the price.
Of course the primary benefit is being able to retain enough air in the tire where the bead stays seated enabling you to work with the sealant very quickly.
One glitch I have experienced is not being able to pump my tires through the removable core. It may be my particular pump (because my buddy who also has these, has no problems pumping through the core)….or it may be that I am not tightening the core enough to where the "straw" breaks through the rubber flaps. I have been removing the core and just pumping through the stem. That's how I know it will hold over 70psi with the core out (I actually pump to 80psi).
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Actually, now that I think about it. I have one of those high capacity pumps that store air in a cylinder, then releases the air (blasts) into the tire. I am able to blast the air without removing the core...so it may be my other pump (that I use to top off tires) that is responsible for my "glitch" described above....that and my buddy has not experienced the same.
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This is my primary interest; on my old wheels, Reynolds Assaults, the beads stayed locked with any of the tires I'd tried, come hell or high water. With the new wheels and tires, hookless Zipps 303S/Schwalbe Pro One Addix, the beads sometimes pop off and back in to the center of the rim bed at very low/no pressure. This makes it a little more messy and wasteful (seating the beads with sealant in the tire and the inevitable bit of blow-out before snapping in to place).
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This is my primary interest; on my old wheels, Reynolds Assaults, the beads stayed locked with any of the tires I'd tried, come hell or high water. With the new wheels and tires, hookless Zipps 303S/Schwalbe Pro One Addix, the beads sometimes pop off and back in to the center of the rim bed at very low/no pressure. This makes it a little more messy and wasteful (seating the beads with sealant in the tire and the inevitable bit of blow-out before snapping in to place).
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I bought and used the Kom Cycling sealant injector pictured in PoorInRichfield’s posting (#12). Worked great with no mess whatsoever. Never thought of using it to remove the sealant when I attach the bike to my Wahoo Kickr Core trainer when the cold weather comes, but may give it a try.
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Removing it for trainer season is only one of the reasons that they're nice. More importantly, it allows you to measure how much sealant is left in your tires during scheduled maintenance checks (many punctures will go unnoticed so you may be running low without knowing it) and to check the consistency (once it's more like skim milk as opposed to half & half, it's not going to be as effective, so it's time to dump the old and put in some new).